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Did Hawaii have any records on Obama before 2006?
post & email ^ | April 8, 2010 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 04/09/2010 10:11:55 AM PDT by Red Steel

THE POST & EMAIL THINKS NOT

The Hawaii Department of Health continues to ignore and stonewall legitimate requests for information which under its UIPA law should be made available to a requester within ten days.

Mr. John Charlton, our Editor-in-Chief, has made three requests for such information from the Health Department beginning in early March which the Health Department either says it does not understand or to which it has failed to respond at all.

On February 26, 2010, Mr. Charlton published an article demonstrating the Health Department’s increasing reluctance to comply with UIPA requests. He had asked for copies of handwritten pages from the “Birth Index” maintained before Hawaii’s birth records were computerized and had offered to pay for the cost of obtaining them. Specifically, he was looking for anyone with the surnames Payne, Dunham, Soetoro and Obama.

Instead, the Health Department sent a PDF file of births with the parents’ names redacted. None of the names for which Mr. Charlton had asked appeared on the list, although Mr. Charlton had obtained information independently that at least one person with one of the last names had been born during the period in question.

Since that time, Mr. Charlton has made three more requests to the Hawaii Department of Health, none of which has been addressed. The PDF which Janice Okubo, the Health Department’s Public Information Officer, released to Mr. Charlton did not contain the information he had requested.

On March 4, 2010, Mr. Charlton sent the Hawaii Health Department the following email:

(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: april; article2section1; birthcertificate; britishsubject; certifigate; citizen; citizenship; dualcitizen; dualcitizenship; eligibility; fukino; hawaii; honolulu; indonesia; ineligible; janiceokubo; kenya; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; okubo; usurper
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1 posted on 04/09/2010 10:11:55 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: 1234

Ping.


2 posted on 04/09/2010 10:12:37 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: butterdezillion; MissTickly

Info ping.


3 posted on 04/09/2010 10:13:58 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: All

If/when it is found and proven that obama is not an American citizen and is therefor ineligible to be President, Healthcare becomes null and void...


4 posted on 04/09/2010 10:14:02 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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That and lot else — would be nice.

But they will probably trot out Slow Joe Biden and he'll sit and resign everything the usurper previously approved.

6 posted on 04/09/2010 10:15:13 AM PDT by Touch Not the Cat (Where is the light? Wonder if it's weeping somewhere...)
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To: Red Steel

Proof positive something is being hidden.


7 posted on 04/09/2010 10:19:23 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: Red Steel

“Instead, the Health Department sent a PDF file of births with the parents’ names redacted”


8 posted on 04/09/2010 10:19:49 AM PDT by Voter62vb
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Did Hawaii have any records on Obama before 2006?
post & email ^ | April 8, 2010 | Sharon Rondeau

THE POST & EMAIL THINKS NOT

Specifically, he was looking for anyone with the surnames Payne, Dunham, Soetoro and Obama.

Instead, the Health Department sent a PDF file of births with the parents’ names redacted. None of the names for which Mr. Charlton had asked appeared on the list, although Mr. Charlton had obtained information independently that at least one person with one of the last names had been born during the period in question.

Check out the (frustrating) correspondence shown at the link.

9 posted on 04/09/2010 10:23:23 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: Maverick68

If/when it is found and proven that obama is not an American citizen and is therefor ineligible to be President, Healthcare becomes null and void...


I disagree with you. If it were found that he was ineligible, even if everyone agreed to undo what he was unqualified to do, the heathcare disaster should still be law.

The President may sign a bill into law, veto it, or refuse to act on the bill. If the President does not act on the bill, after 10 days it becomes law. If Obama signing the bill were undone, wouldn’t it be as if the President did not act on the bill at all? Executive could/should be undone, but I don’t think this should.


10 posted on 04/09/2010 10:25:37 AM PDT by samson1097
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>> The President may sign a bill into law, veto it, or refuse to act on the bill. If the President does not act on the bill, after 10 days it becomes law. If Obama signing the bill were undone, wouldn’t it be as if the President did not act on the bill at all? Executive could/should be undone, but I don’t think this should.

You are mistaken. A bill cannot become law without signature. If a President does not act, it is a “pocket veto”.

SnakeDoc


11 posted on 04/09/2010 10:28:15 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant [...] that even a god-king can bleed.")
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To: Red Steel
This is very interesting. I think a possible explanation (which doesn't help in getting at the truth) is that pressure has been applied from above, or implied from above, so there's no UIPA co-operation to be had from anyone in that department.

You don't have to be too smart to know that your civil service job will be history if you tread on Obama's toes. And there's probably enough goons around to make you worry about more than your job.

12 posted on 04/09/2010 10:29:48 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: samson1097
Seems to me it would be like a fraudulent preacher marrying a man and a woman.

After the fraud was discovered, the marriage would become null and void.

Just my $.02

13 posted on 04/09/2010 10:31:15 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Red Steel
Note that by “Birth Index”, I mean that index which regards grants of Certificates of Live Birth, not Certificates of Hawaiian Birth.

Say what? I said a long time ago they needed to investigate the hand written original birth indexes. Why is he wanting the COLBs? Unless it's backdooring it but he'd still need to index to the actual vault copies.

14 posted on 04/09/2010 10:33:20 AM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Red Steel

I believe there is something 0dumbo doesn’t want seen
but what Bc did he use to get his drivers license SS card etc

I think he had been using the one he made up ( or his grandparents ) made up , perhaps even after he came back from Indonesia.

he would have needed some form of a BC prior to his run so I don’t think Hi made up one in 2006. I think one was fabricated long ago.


15 posted on 04/09/2010 10:35:06 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Red Steel

For later read.


16 posted on 04/09/2010 10:35:53 AM PDT by Tucker822
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To: Red Steel
Are there any pics of him as an infant in Hawaii? All I have seen are adolescent pics that his campaign released.

I have not followed this very closely, thanks!

17 posted on 04/09/2010 10:37:41 AM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: samson1097

But THIS bill is considered law because the President signed it NOT because of his inaction.
I should be null and void as with EVERY piece of legislation he has signed.


18 posted on 04/09/2010 10:39:02 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: SnakeDoctor

A pocket veto can only happen if Congress has adjourned. Otherwise, the bill becomes law with or without the president’s signature.


19 posted on 04/09/2010 10:40:26 AM PDT by Cincinnatus
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To: Red Steel
Note that by “Birth Index”, I mean that index which regards grants of Certificates of Live Birth, not Certificates of Hawaiian Birth.

Say what? I said a long time ago they needed to investigate the hand written original birth indexes. Why is he wanting the COLBs? Unless it's backdooring it but he'd still need to index to the actual vault copies. Also, why is everyone dealing with the health department? Go to the county clerk's office. It's all on file there and lots easier to get into.

20 posted on 04/09/2010 10:41:05 AM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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