Posted on 04/09/2010 6:50:41 AM PDT by marktwain
We've been discussing doctors presuming to advise patients on gun safety. We saw a standard form used by an HMO and a form we can give back to make them think twice about dispensing advice they are not qualified to provide.
It's not surprising that the medical establishment reflects an anti-gun bias. Such sentiment has been expressed at the top levels for some time now.
A Reason article from 13 years ago shows how strong the leadership bias has been.
Case in point, it discusses, among many other things, Mark Rosenberg, once director of the National Center for Injury Prevention and Control at the Centers for Disease Control (and now President and Chief Executive Officer The Task Force for Global Health: "a coalition of the World Health Organization, UNICEF, the United Nations Development Programmme, the World Bank, and The Rockefeller Foundation"):
In 1993 Rolling Stone reported that Rosenberg 'envisions a long term campaign, similar to [those concerning] tobacco use and auto safety, to convince Americans that guns are, first and foremost, a public health menace.' In 1994 he told The Washington Post, 'We need to revolutionize the way we look at guns, like what we did with cigarettes. Now it [sic] is dirty, deadly, and banned.'
Or consider this from Deborah Prothrow-Stith of the Harvard School of Public Health:
'My own view on gun control is simple,' she writes. 'I hate guns and cannot imagine why anybody would want to own one. If I had my way, guns for sport would be registered, and all other guns would be banned.'
So it's hardly unexpected that we would see the following advice from a site like WebMD.com, citing both the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Journal of Public Health as authoritative sources:
(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
I have never had a Doctor ask me anything about guns.
I live in Wyoming may be why.
Why don’t the doctors ask about automobiles? There are more traffic deaths in the USA than gun deaths.
my doctor is always asking me about guns.
usually wanting my input on loads and how well they work, carry suggestions, shotgun v handgun for home defense, accuracy and reliability of different guns..
The begining was generic name, dob, address, etc. Then the bottom was how many smoke detectors we had in the house, Did the kids ride bikes without helmets. Were there guns in the house. Did we have dogs. If so, were there trigger locks, were they in a safe etc etc.
I filled the top part out and lined out the other questions. I wrote in "Declined to respond" in big letters for very answer.
MRS RO asked why I wrote that and was so short.... I told her it was nicer than writing "none of your f'n business."
"Do you have any guns in the house? They're dangerous."
"If they weren't dangerous, I wouldn't have any."
More people die by Doctors mistakes than guns.
I would have left and found another doctor (pediatrician)...
No need to explain it to the RO, or anyone else...Let them figure it out...
This doc is certainly not anti gun
Wait till they make it mandatory to have a home “visit” to complete an acceptance for care to be provided by a government doctor...Or any doctor for that matter...
If I wanted to get rid of guns in the home, thats what I would do...
In the Third Reich doctors were willing accomplices to Eugenics and in Stalin’s Russia, doctors were willing accomplices to calling enemies of the state mentally ill. Nothing all that new here, IMHO.
Come and get them, Debbie.
When I practiced in Wyoming it was common knowledge that one member of the medical staff wore concealed carry even while making rounds. It was interesting to the rest of us, but nobody complained. Town of 50K, lived there four years, everybody I knew in town owned at least a dozen guns - only one murder in those four years, and it was by knife.
In the past month (not in WY), I’ve had two female patients tell me, out of the blue, how much they enjoyed going out to shoot with their new boyfriends. We had a good time discussing pistols and shooting and such, and they felt very much at ease discussing it with me - must have been the jacket with the Front Site logo on it draped over my chair. :)
The AMA, and in my case the APA, do not at all represent the majority of doctors, and I wouldn’t really trust polls that claimed to. I know plenty of pro-gun docs.
No need to explain it to the RO, or anyone else...Let them figure it out...
I have TriCare (military) insurance, so there are only a few pediatricians that we can use. This one is 45 minutes away and the closest (we don't live on a base).
So, I WOULD have to explain it to DieCare, that wouldn't give a damn about it... and would leave me to pay all of the cost (not that I have any problem paying my own way, but the military doesn't exactly pay top dollar for enlisted folks).
But, everyone else may soon realize the "benefit" of socialized medicine that military famlies receive.
My advice.... buy stock in ibeuprofin [sp?] (motrin) because the military prescribes it for EVERYTHING..... I imagine 0Care will too.
Well I knew that this was probably the case...It’s unfortunate that somehow it is acceptable (as a business owner) that your doctor (and insurance company) would be so intrusive on this and a few other issues that have absolutely no preventable medical “need to know”...
I for one, if they insist on knowing, would lie...What could they possibly do about that???
I’ll just leave that one hanging out there...;-)
Good luck, I hope they are at least a good doctor...
“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined...The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun.”
-Patrick Henry.
Thanks.
I’m lucky to be working with a group of psychiatrists that are not only pro 2nd amendment and pro gun, but most also have prior military service.
Almost makes staying in healthcare bearable!
Militant
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