Posted on 04/08/2010 5:23:19 PM PDT by marktwain
SB 1108 (Constitutional Carry) just passed House Third Read 36-19-5.
Marktwain adds: The bill now goes to Governor Jan Brewster for signature. Governor Brewster is expected to sign. When this bill goes into effect, Constitutional carry will be the law of the land in 20% of the nation. Arizona will become the third state, after Vermont and Alaska, to reinstitute Constitutional carry, which has been legislated against in most states since the War Between the States.
Can someone explain what constitutional carry is?
Good for AZ!
Even if that were true, it would be hard to argue with because this is a legal open carry state. Why would it be legal for a person to carry in a holster, but be required to take a class to move their gun to a fanny pack, pocket, or purse? Also, there's hardly blood flowing in the streets in Alaska and Vermont, the two other Constitutional states, so it's pretty hard for Arizona to make the case that this restriction is as narrowly tailored as possible to avoid mass bloodshed. That having been said, I think it's still very wise to take a class, I just don't think people should have to participate in a de facto registration scheme to do so.
NRA Ping
Brewer.
Wise, sure. It should not be a requirement to exercise a right affirmed by the second amendment to the Constitution. Maybe we should require parenting classes before anybody can bear a child? Get a license, good for a year?
Sure.
lol
Well, if this were Washington DC instead of Arizona, I’d say it meant you could legally “carry” a copy of the Constitution— you just can’t legislate with it! ;-)
Yahooo!!! Great news. When I would go to the border, I’d have to worry about if I had my gun in my pack momentarily, that I’d get arrested. I agree about the class and everything that you said. It’s not that I was too lazy to take it, had even called around to try to get into one, but I don’t want to be put on their Stalinist lists just because I might need to have my gun in my pack (or hidden by a blowing shirt) for a few minutes.
I have not heard the term constitutional carry. But since they reference Alaska...
Alaska's concealed carry law is basically that if you can legally own the gun, you can carry it concealed.
Now there's a good idea! LOL. Especially here in the People's Republic of Berkeley East (Tucson).
Concealed-weapons bills up for vote
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2010/03/25/20100325arizona-concealed-weapons-bill.html
Proposed legislation that would make Arizona the third state in the nation to allow adults to carry concealed guns without permits may be the first of the dozen or so weapons-related bills proposed this session to hit the governor’s desk.
Lawmakers have amended Senate Bill 1108 and House Bill 2347 so they consist of identical language that would, among other things, eliminate the requirement for concealed-carry weapon permits for U.S. citizens 21 and older.
>>> Can someone explain what constitutional carry is?
Pretty sure it means that the constitution is the only authority you need...
No permits to carry.
Excellent...
One question though — does this repeal legislation, or is it new legislation of its own? [Because ANY legislation after the fact of the Constitutional Right makes it as if it CAN be taken away...]
Shoot, I'm even a little iffy on registering cars, and those aren't even explicit constitutional rights. I love how people point to a discrepancy in the treatment of cars vs. guns. I too realize there's kind of a contradiction, but can't figure out why they just point out the difference and think they're done and their case is made.
Why is it assumed that any inconsistency has to be resolved by more government control over the freer case? It would be just as logical to say "Activity A is more heavily regulated than Activity B, and yet people aren't stacked like cordwood from Activity B, we'd better take a fresh look at Activity A and make sure we're not over-regulating it."
AZ had a ridiculous requirement for something like 16 hours of classroom. That helped pass this bill: government over-reaching.
bttt!
That was several years ago. The current requirement is for 8 hours of training. Now that we have Constitutional Carry, we should work to bring it down to 4 hours, and to eliminate the requirement for fingerprints.
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