Posted on 04/06/2010 6:34:27 AM PDT by Zakeet
On Monday’s Larry King Live on CNN, guest Jane Fonda portrayed herself as a victim of a "myth" that was "created" by "right-wingers" about her infamous "Hanoi Jane" visit to Vietnam to protest the Vietnam War. Without specifying what aspect of the "Hanoi Jane" story she considered to be a fallacy, though the "Product Description" at Amazon.com seems to shed some light on what she was referring to, she claimed that author Jerry Lembcke’s new book, "Hanoi Jane: War, Sex, and Fantasies of Betrayal," is "about the myth," and asserted that it is "sad" that some conservatives are "still stuck in the past":
JANE FONDA: No, it's about the myth, you know, why it is that 300 people went to North Vietnam, people, many people before me, why me, why have they created this myth? You know, when I came back from North Vietnam, there was maybe a quarter of an inch of media about it in the New York Times. Nobody made any big deal out of it. It was created, and some people are stuck-LARRY KING: By critics?
FONDA: By right wingers. There are some people who are like stuck there, you know, they're still stuck in the past. I always want to say, "Get a life," or, you know, "Read what really happened," you know. The myths are now true.
Referring to people who sometimes protest against her, she continued: "But it makes me sad for these people who are stuck because they've not taken the time – if they're going to waste their energy on hatred, they should take the time in finding out what was really true."
The "Product Description" of the book at Amazon.com contends:
Hanoi Jane, the book, deconstructs Hanoi Jane, the myth, to locate its origins in the need of Americans to explain defeat in Vietnam through fantasies of home-front betrayal and the emasculation of the national will-to-war. Lembcke shows th t the expression Hanoi Jane did not reach the eyes and ears of most Americans until five or six years after the end of the war in Vietnam. By then, anxieties about America s declining global status and deteriorating economy were fueling a populist reaction that pointed to the loss of the war as the taproot of those problems. Blaming the antiwar movement for undermining the military s resolve, many found in the imaginary Hanoi Jane the personification of their stab-in-the back theories.Ground zero of the myth was the city of Hanoi itself, which Jane Fonda had visited as a peace activist in July 1972. Rumors surrounding Fonda s visits with U.S. POWs and radio broadcasts to troops combined to conjure allegations of treason that had cost American lives. That such tales were more imagined than real did not prevent them from insinuating themselves into public memory, where they have continued to infect American politics and culture.
Hanoi Jane is a book about the making of Hanoi Jane by those who saw a formidable threat in the Jane Fonda who supported soldiers and veterans opposed to the war they fought, in the postcolonial struggle of the Vietnamese people to make their own future, and in the movements of women everywhere for gender equality.
When asked by host King what she thought of Sarah Palin, after asserting that "she should not be a politician, in my opinion," and that it is "sad when someone says I'm going to run for office and they can't answer basic questions, you know, about the world, about what they read, about history," the left-wing actress concluded that Palin’s popularity "worries me, frankly."
Below is a transcript of the relevant portion of the Monday, April 5, Larry King Live on CNN:
Boy that was some myth created of you sitting on the guns posing for photos. That sure was invented by...wait that was in photos,right? *sarcasm* Well Jane DUH. Sure other people went before you but you brought the press with you and now you blame it on others? Moonbat of the first degree!
I never ever call another woman a B==ch,,never and I get on people’s cases who do.
BUt in Hanoi Jane’s case, I am making an exception.
Many of us who are younger but had family over there will join you ibn that. :)
You’re quite welcome. Love a well articulated post! :)
Yes Jane, I knew the commies were the good guys when they killed little girls and nuns during the Russian Revolution.
Of course Sarah Palin’s popularity “worries her” to such a person, Sarah would be like Garlic to a vampire.
"'The Black Book of Communism,'; a scholarly accounting of communism’s crimes, counts about 94 million murdered by the supposed champions of the common man (20 million for the Soviets alone), and some say that number is too low."
Forgetting the Evils of Communism: The amnesia bites a little deeper
By Jonah Goldberg, August 2008:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZmY0MjI1MDgyYjg1M2UwNDMzMTk2Mjk5YTk0ZTdlMWE=
I watched her for a few seconds, not recognizing who I was looking at. Announcer said, and now back to Jane Fonda. I said, where is she? As soon as she opened her mouth, I recognized the voice, but not the face. She’s had so much plastic surgery done, that she doesn’t look like herself anymore. Botoxed into oblivion.
Large bore artificial inseminator?
ah yes, Jane Fondue. Raw meat in a RED Sauce
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE
Wednesday, April 07, 2010
The Return of Hanoi Jane [John J. Miller]
Jane Fonda’s most famous film clip isn’t a scene from Klute or On Golden Pond or even one of those workout videos. Instead, it’s that 1972 appearance behind a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun. On Monday night, she explained to Larry King that nutty right-wingers are the source of her subsequent reputation as a Commie dupe:
JANE FONDA: No, it’s about the myth, you know, why it is that 300 people went to North Vietnam, people, many people before me, why me, why have they created this myth? You know, when I came back from North Vietnam, there was maybe a quarter of an inch of media about it in the New York Times. Nobody made any big deal out of it. It was created, and some people are stuck-
LARRY KING: By critics?
FONDA: By right wingers. There are some people who are like stuck there, you know, they’re still stuck in the past. I always want to say, “Get a life,” or, you know, “Read what really happened,” you know. The myths are now true.
Get a life? This doesn’t sound like the woman who once tried to express remorse for her actions. In 1988, she appeared on 20/20. Here’s a summary from AP:
“I was trying to help end the killing,” Fonda said in an interview with Barbara Walters. “But there were times I was thoughtless and careless about it and I’m ... very sorry that I hurt them. And I want to apologize to them and to their families.”
For a lot of veterans, her apology came 16 years too late. Yet she did apologize, at least for the specific act of appearing behind the anti-aircraft gun. (As she also tried to make clear, she did not want to apologize for the totality of her anti-war activism.) Better late than never, right?
Well, Fonda apparently wanted not just forgiveness, but also forgetfulness—because now, if even a softball-tosser like Larry King ventures anywhere near the subject of what she did in North Vietnam, nobody is treated to anything like the appearance of sincere regret. Instead, we get Hanoi Jane, ready to scold. Did you hear her, Vietnam vets? Get a life
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTI4MDQzOWY0MTgxODA0N2UzYzkxYWQ3YzVlMDA5Yzk=
Fonda has spent her whole life being under the spell of one male Svengali after another. During Vietnam, it was Tom Hayden. Methinks she has daddy issues.
Also - I’d sooner watch Mr. Rogers reruns than watch Larry King.
Facts are facts, bitch! Some guys who were in the Hanoi Hilton know what you did, first hand, and they have the scars to prove it. You have a very deep problem recognizing reality.
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