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Immigration effort lacks 2nd backer from GOP (RINO McCain MIA; Cornyn, Kyl stepping gingerly)
The Washington Times ^ | 2010-04-05 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 04/05/2010 9:05:54 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

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I heard Sen. Gramnesty say on the Medved show (week of March 29 - April 2) that if we implement his plan for immigration reform "we'll never have 12 million illegal immigrants again." (He did in fact say 12 million, the quote in its entirety may not be exact.)

I believe the Senator.

Here's why. The 1986 immigration reform promised that we'd never have 3 million illegal aliens again.

There's one thing you absolutely have to admit about the 1986 promise. We do not have 3 million illegal immigrants. we have, 12 million illegal immigrants (at least 12 million).

So.. let's see 12 million times 4 is . . . .

61 posted on 04/05/2010 5:46:44 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: sergeantdave

He is a “girly man”. I think he has hormone problems. Any Republican who steps over the line is political history. Hayworth is raising money bigtime. He has to beat the socialists and RINOS .


62 posted on 04/05/2010 6:57:05 PM PDT by rogertarp
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To: AuntB; rabscuttle385; stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; indylindy; Kimberly GG; Liz; penelopesire

63 posted on 04/05/2010 7:23:04 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Yeah, gracias O’Sullivan, you f’n whore.


64 posted on 04/05/2010 7:26:03 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: Jedidah

Make deportation somewhat self funding.

We seize the assets of drug dealers, without even having to convict them first.
Seize the assets of illegals, many of them have substantial holding, including real estate.
All they have was obtained illegally, by virtue of their illegal entry and the jobs they took from Americans.
Instead of giving them a reward (amnesty, path to citizenship) for having been here longer, send them home with NOTHING but the clothes on their backs!

The only “Immigration Reform” I will accept is sincere enforcement of the existing laws, and asset seizure to defray some of the cost of deportation.
Make sure ALL the illegal invaders are included, no matter what country they came from.


65 posted on 04/06/2010 12:28:45 AM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: stephenjohnbanker
O'Sullivan was against the GWB amnesty:

Comprehensively Awful by O'Sullivan

The sign "Gracias, Senate GOP" was a poke at the RINOs in the senate. The Weekly Standard (Barnes and Kristol) was FOR amnesty, the NR was AGAINST.

66 posted on 04/06/2010 1:22:18 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Mucho apologies. May I crawl back in my hole now?


67 posted on 04/06/2010 4:36:46 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

“The Weakly Standard (Barnes and Kristol)”

This I am aware of. Years ago, I watched Barnes promote amnesty on Fox. I have not watched him since.


68 posted on 04/06/2010 4:45:08 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Happens to the best of us!


69 posted on 04/06/2010 4:49:20 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

At least when I F up, I do it right!


70 posted on 04/06/2010 4:54:18 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: Loyal Sedition

Your proposal is interesting, but somewhat uninformed.

Maybe you live in Texas like I do and know a whole different class of illegals, but your assumption that they have assets is foreign to my rather extensive experience.

These are, for the most part, people who came here with nothing and live hand-to-mouth, working hard and long hours when they can find work just to feed their families. Many have left families in Mexico and send what they earn back to them.

They work for very little, live in cramped and often shoddy housing, and have the ability to negatively affect both the job market and housing values anywhere they congregate because they are poor. Contentedly poor.

In other words, in most cases there are no assets to seize, just bodies to transport.

You’ve pointed out one of the big stumbling blocks to immigration reform: many Americans simply don’t understand the facts.

I’m totally with you in wanting illegal immigration stopped, fully and quickly. But your idea of asset seizure is — no offense intended — uninformed and laughable.


71 posted on 04/06/2010 7:13:27 AM PDT by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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” Only a McCain defeat will really drive the point home with Kyl and other pro-illegals Republicans “ Go J.D...................

Correct. The 'stepping gingerly' folks have GOT to be sent a message. Dead fish wrapped in a McCain poster, delivered to the other Senators --- "McCain's Senate career sleeps with the fishes"--- that'll do it.

72 posted on 04/06/2010 7:19:13 AM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: sergeantdave
He’s already persona non grata in SC and needs a platoon size security detail. Several county republican organizations have censured him.

Then there's no question. He's working for some unseen master. No politician would cut against the grain of his constituent's wishes that badly, unless he were beholden to a greater power.

73 posted on 04/06/2010 2:09:18 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

“Then there’s no question. He’s working for some unseen master. “

Your guess is as good as mine, Windflier. It’s a mystery why Graham is a clunker.


74 posted on 04/06/2010 5:33:15 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: BradtotheBone

Good God, how I would love to see JD Hayworth win.


75 posted on 04/07/2010 12:30:01 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: sergeantdave
It’s a mystery why Graham is a clunker.

The only mystery is the identity of those he's sold out to. My guess is that guys like Graham are bought and paid for before they're even elected.

76 posted on 04/07/2010 12:57:31 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jedidah

Your Texas illegals are certainly NOT the same as those in Kalifornia and Nevada!

Around here most do not pick fruit or vegetables, or live in poverty.
They take good paying jobs in manufacturing, construction, retail, etc.
They own late model vehicles, and HOMES!
Since they get to pick what laws apply to them, if any, they actually have advantages that legal Americans do not.
The Unions prefer them over Americans, as the illegals will always support any Union edict and vote as they are told.

One of the issues clouding these discussions is the idea that the illegals are all hispanic Mexicans and South Americans.
Maybe true in Texas, but around here they are also Koreans, Russians, Chinese, Canadians, Irish, white South African, black South African, Japanese, Lebanese, Tongan, etc. Basically, every nation on earth has illegals here.
Most do not have to swim a river or jump a fence, just permanently overstay their visa.

The hispanics may be more easily recognized, in part due to making so little or no effort to assimilate, but many other invaders speak english just fine, and easily pass without ready detection.
The non-Mex. more easily amass wealth, and are just as deserving of it’s seizure, and their deportation.
They have committed the same invasion the Mex./So. Americans have, deport them ALL.
The only way to avoid giving credence to the inevitable “Racism” ploy is to not discriminate, all illegals get stripped of their assets and deported, no exceptions.


77 posted on 04/08/2010 12:02:52 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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