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Steve Forbes: A Grotesquerie [ObamaCare, The Markets and Socialism]
Forbes ^ | April 3, 2010 | Steve Forbes

Posted on 04/03/2010 4:54:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

With an ice-cold disdain for public opinion and an obsession worthy of Lenin, President Obama and Speaker Nancy Pelosi rammed ObamaCare through the House by unprecedented parliamentary trickery, bribery and deceit. The President has thereby poisoned the national political well.

But the health care fight has just begun. Substantive constitutional court challenges are coming. Congressional elections are around the corner, and there's a growing opposition that wants to undo what Obama has just done. The President will discover that, ultimately, the American people's tenacity will overwhelm his--and he will be a failed President. But the cost of his public-be-damned attitude will be immense.

Marx Would Be Impressed

Socialists believe that the way to paradise is for governments to own "the means of production." Thus, decades ago even democratic countries such as France and Britain nationalized considerable swathes of their economies to achieve "social justice." That didn't work so well; therefore, since the days of Margaret Thatcher there have been wave after wave of privatizations in Europe and around the world.

Today's neosocialists are smarter than their ancestors.(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; chrisdodd; congress; financereform; forbes; neosocialists; obama; obamacare; socialisthealthcare; socialists; steveforbes
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1 posted on 04/03/2010 4:54:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Racist.


2 posted on 04/03/2010 4:55:58 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: johniegrad
Racist.

Clearly.

3 posted on 04/03/2010 4:58:34 PM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow, Steve Forbes not pulling any punches here.

Forbes kind of reminds me of Newt Gingrich as a smart-guy, understander-of-the-big-picture type.


4 posted on 04/03/2010 5:10:38 PM PDT by Yardstick
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5 posted on 04/03/2010 5:11:20 PM PDT by 4Liberty ( we have a rat problem.)
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6 posted on 04/03/2010 5:13:05 PM PDT by 4Liberty ( we have a rat problem.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

btt


7 posted on 04/03/2010 5:13:36 PM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Excellent overview by Mr. Forbes.


8 posted on 04/03/2010 5:17:14 PM PDT by GVnana
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9 posted on 04/03/2010 5:24:55 PM PDT by 4Liberty ( we have a rat problem.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks for that post. I have always admired Steve forbes and thought he’d be a great president - the year he ran and especially now...


10 posted on 04/03/2010 5:26:28 PM PDT by MissyMack66
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Steve Forbes couldn’t win any run for POTUS, because his face is “too messed up”.


11 posted on 04/03/2010 5:34:59 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow, this is powerful. Pulls no punches and tells it all clearly.

Bumping and bookmarking.


12 posted on 04/03/2010 5:37:25 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Depose the Queen: support the conservative congressional candidate(s) of your choice.)
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To: 4Liberty
So spot on, it bears repeating...



13 posted on 04/03/2010 5:46:07 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Started reading ‘spenser’ novels about 15 yrs ago. Have read every one (in order). Also Jesse Stone. I will miss Robert B. Parker.


14 posted on 04/03/2010 6:34:04 PM PDT by maine yankee
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To: Yardstick

Newt? Newt is an opportunist. He revealed his true colors when he supported that RINO in NY.


15 posted on 04/03/2010 7:02:00 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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Obamacare Starts Squeezing the Private Sector

By William Tucker

Over the next six months Republicans will have to do much more than just show that Obamacare won’t work.

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/03/30/obamacare-starts-squeezing-the


16 posted on 04/03/2010 7:20:11 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: 4Liberty

Yeah. I recently rediscovered this old video from 1948 “Make Mine Freedom.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVh75ylAUXY

Even then the Wall St. tycoon would sucker for the easy solution along with the rest of the rubes.


17 posted on 04/03/2010 9:03:19 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I love Steve Forbes!
18 posted on 04/03/2010 9:04:52 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: maine yankee

Maine, have you seen the Jesse Stone DVD’s? I’ve checked out a few from my library. They’re great! Tom Selleck is perfect in the role and I hope they film all of the Jesse Stone novels with him as the lead.


19 posted on 04/03/2010 10:16:07 PM PDT by sinanju
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I’m not sure Steve Forbes follows the HealthCare Bill to it’s logical conclusion: the onerous regulations and coverage requirements are designed to DESTROY all the insurers, NOT turn them into some kind of de facto public utility. When they start going under then he will declare that the government has no choice but to take over.

Otherwise, this is the best article I’ve seen about Chris Dodd’s own 1500-page financial regulatory monster. He and his staff must have gone over it comprehensively.

Where I think Obama miscalculated is that his healthcare bill will bring on Gotterdamerung/Ragnarok much faster than he intended (after all, he doesn’t know what’s in it). That’s why the administration and Waxman are panicking over the companies’ public release of the estimates of their medical costs exploding. Things were not supposed to start going haywire immediately, It was all supposed to kick in AFTER 2012, not right away.

For my own part, I can’t see how this will do any less but cause the utter, total, abject collapse of the American Health Care System. Doctors quitting en masse, Hospitals and clinics closing their doors, Medicaid and Medicare exploding like overripe tomatoes... But first, doctors and hospitals will be going Galt all over their Medicaid and Medicare patients in a desperate bid to stay afloat a while longer. The shock effects will come on fast and hard, and snowball bigtime. As it hails on liberals and conservatives, workers and retirees alike, the public will be terrified and start breaking out the pitchforks and torches.

The greatest miscalculation was that these idiots actually thought they could make America a socialist state overnight. Eurosocialist countries can limp along for about fifty or sixty years or so but it only works that way if you’re a smaller (8-40 million), more homogeneous country and you have time to gradually lose your starch. And now they are “running out of other people’s money”, starting with the club med countries. America’s too big and complicated to function as a statist system. Furthermore, in Euroland, socialism was imposed gradually, bit-by-bit. These klowns simply threw every one of their wet dreams into one bill and passed it, with no idea of the unintended consequences. This is the real consequence of none of them bothering to read the whole bill and realizing all these gears don’t fit together.


20 posted on 04/03/2010 10:50:58 PM PDT by sinanju
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