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1 posted on 03/25/2010 2:15:45 PM PDT by arthurus
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Nonsense. Real, substantial, measurable wealth was created. What is changed is the people in power in this country are intent on bringing that power to bear to destroy that wealth.


2 posted on 03/25/2010 2:24:07 PM PDT by DManA
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Prices fell through much of the 1800's. Immigrants poured into the country and were assimilated and became productive members of society. We expanded across the continent and grew into our status as a world power. Rockefeller, Carnegie, Morgan, Gould -- great captains of industry.

Then, in 1913, we established the Federal Reserve, the Income Tax, and the popular election of senators. The federal government thereafter absorbed all the money, sapped much of the freedom and creativity of society, and gave the mob whatever the mob clamored for.

The 20th century was a lost century. Close-up, to the people living it, I suppose it looked good. But the reality is that we did a whole host of things wrong.

And so far, it looks like the 21st century will "fix" the problems by making it all 100x worse.

3 posted on 03/25/2010 2:24:20 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I do not want the Union to be maintained. I want the US to break up. I support secession.)
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Bump. One of the best posts I have read this year.

Those Freepers who think that the economy was ticking along smoothly until the Democrats got Congress in 2006 would be well advised to read it.

4 posted on 03/25/2010 2:25:04 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi Tio es infermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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Well, a good reason for the huge surge in the U.S. economy was the ending of World War II, we were the only major player that was almost untouched by the war. Germany, France, Italy, Russia, Japan and to a lesser extend but still significant, the UK were pounded into rubble. This helped us to be “king of the hill.” The Cold War helped us to stay there against a rival USSR. I would say that our most prosperous time was from 1945 to 200x with 1950 to about 1980 as our true “golden years.” Before that, you had things that were common like “multigeneration households,” only rich kids going to college (or you really had to work hsrd) and so on. I think we are headed that way again.


5 posted on 03/25/2010 2:25:30 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you?)
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That would mean that a bubble is pretty much all I’ve ever known being 49yo. That is a scary thought.


6 posted on 03/25/2010 2:26:33 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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This is one of the most interesting, and informative, threads I’ve read in a long time. I have always been fascinated by the rise and fall of empires and it does seem to me that ours is about to end, if it hasn’t already.


34 posted on 03/25/2010 4:36:35 PM PDT by angelrod
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Applies to everything. What if summer temperatures seem warmer over my insignificant lifetime. OOPS, must be do to man. Never mind the 6 billion years before that...

We have some extremely long economic cycles, and of course how can you compare what comes after dropping the gold standard to what comes after. There is a shift. Your lifetime observed “normal” may be anything but.

I agree.


36 posted on 03/25/2010 4:50:21 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Bye bye Miss American Freedom. Idiot voters put a stake through your heart.)
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btt


39 posted on 03/25/2010 10:44:23 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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