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Vanity: Pass a Constitutional Amendment!
The Constitutional | March 22, 2009 | My Keyboard

Posted on 03/22/2010 6:49:38 PM PDT by Irisshlass

38 States have legislation drawn up, a couple States have already passed it to block the forced healthcare upon their states. It takes 38 states to pass a Constitutional Ammendment. And it seems that this is the key to stop these socialist communists from taking over our country once and for all.


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To: bayareablues

I just paused in my tracks. BRILLIANT laddie I say brilliant.


61 posted on 03/22/2010 7:23:25 PM PDT by truthbetold11 (truthbetold11)
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To: Irisshlass

This is dangerous and we don’t need it. Everything we need is already in the 10th Amendment. Just enforce it.


62 posted on 03/22/2010 7:25:02 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Star Traveler

Why? Kindly tell how that would happen.


63 posted on 03/22/2010 7:27:11 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: hellbender

Why is it dangerous? Who is it dangerous for?


64 posted on 03/22/2010 7:27:43 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: hellbender

Who said Scott Brown would never in a million years get elected in Maasachusetts and take Teddy’s seat to boot. I’m from Mass and witness first hand democracy in motion. Lets do it!


65 posted on 03/22/2010 7:28:21 PM PDT by truthbetold11 (truthbetold11)
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To: circlecity
You misunderstand the principle of agency. The states determine the scope of the convention with the authorizing language in their petitions. The convention is the agent of the states, and no agent can go outside the scope of an agency agreement.

It would be like you authorizing me to sell your car, but I go and sell your house instead. It violates the agency agreeement.

All Congress is doing is regulating housekeeping, which the federal courts long ago permitted when they authorized Congress to slap 7 years limits on ratifications.

A convention is limited to its authorizing language generated by the states and can go no farther. That is why a runaway convention is legally impossile.

66 posted on 03/22/2010 7:29:59 PM PDT by Publius (The prudent man sees the evil and hides himself; the simple pass on and are punished.)
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To: hellbender

That is fine if the courts uphold the Constitution and rule in favor of the states. If they don’t that is the reason the founding fathers gave the states the right to challenge the federal government through a constitutional convention.


67 posted on 03/22/2010 7:30:39 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: SueRae

Sue..I believe that too!


68 posted on 03/22/2010 7:31:18 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: Publius

Thank you for the correction.

Note that the beauty of a Convention is that it bypasses the socialist Congress, it renders little Rhode Island as powerful as New York, sparsely populated Alaska as powerful as all of the population of California.

We really do have the power! Most conservatives including many powerful and high profile conservatives have missed this. We should circulate that Red States have the power!

Keep repeating please!


69 posted on 03/22/2010 7:31:39 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: Irisshlass
Bill of Federalism

Purpose
"To restore a proper balance between the powers of Congress and those of the several States, and to prevent the denial or disparagement of the rights retained by the people"

70 posted on 03/22/2010 7:34:48 PM PDT by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: Irisshlass
We already have a constitutional amendment for this exact issue:

Amendment 13, Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

What part of this is inadequate?

72 posted on 03/22/2010 7:36:50 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Hostage

It’s dangerous to all of us. Up to now, the Left has had to rely on its interpretation of the Constitution as a “living, breathing document.” You are giving them a chance to actually put into writing their anti-republican communist ideas. Very very foolish. You seem to assume that a Const. Convention would consist of a bunch of Tea Party types. It would contain the same creeps we see now in Congress.


73 posted on 03/22/2010 7:38:01 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Irisshlass

WHy don’t states just pass thier own nullification acts just like South Carolina did in 1832; would that not work?


74 posted on 03/22/2010 7:38:46 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Hostage
One thing I've noticed is the fear and hostility the suggestion of a convention creates at this site. With the able assistance of Congressman Billybob, who is a constitutional lawyer based in North Carolina, I wrote the essay to which I linked in Post #28, which lays out the whole thing according to the 1992 law standardizing the amendatory process.

I believe the states are so angry that two-thirds could in fact demand a Conventon for Proposing Amendments. But as Judge Napolitano pointed out, the language has to be carefully written because that language will determine the legal scope of the agency agreement between the states and the convention. Further, Congress will do anything it can to deep-six a convention if the wording is not absolutely identical. We need some state legislators to coordinate between the states to make sure the authorizing language in the petitions is identical and legally airtight, else Congress will make mischief.

75 posted on 03/22/2010 7:39:40 PM PDT by Publius (The prudent man sees the evil and hides himself; the simple pass on and are punished.)
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To: Talisker

Look for an Executive Order from 0bama declaring anyone that won’t sign onto universal health care a criminal. Poof! You are now a slave.


76 posted on 03/22/2010 7:42:58 PM PDT by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: americanophile
The Constitution forbids federal officeholders from holding seats at a Convention for Proposing Amendments, so people like Waxman and Schumer will not be there. Likewise, most states have laws that forbid state officeholders from holding seats at such a convention.

State legislatures will not pick delegates. According to the 1992 federal law, the states will call special elections to fill those 535 delegate slots.

77 posted on 03/22/2010 7:43:02 PM PDT by Publius (The prudent man sees the evil and hides himself; the simple pass on and are punished.)
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To: hellbender

Oh really? Well you know you obviously don’t understand the Constitution’s amendment process.

You think the Framers were dumb?

How in the Hell are liberals going to get 38 states to ratify an amendment????

How many red states do conservatives control???

Conservatives hold the cards here!

Constitutional Conventions are DANGEROUS FOR LIBERALS!!!


78 posted on 03/22/2010 7:43:16 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: Hostage
Constitutional Conventions are DANGEROUS FOR LIBERALS!!!

A fine FReeper named Macbeth said back in 2000, "The Left may want a convention, but the Right owns the convention."

He called it. It is the means by which the states overrule Congress.

79 posted on 03/22/2010 7:46:49 PM PDT by Publius (The prudent man sees the evil and hides himself; the simple pass on and are punished.)
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To: Publius

I will read your post #28 and thank you for the effort.

Details of the language are indeed important and I am confident we will have the finest jurists in the country inspecting every sense of it.

What really needs to be done now is to repeatedly broadcast what we are discussing here and the hidden power that conservatives have!


80 posted on 03/22/2010 7:47:06 PM PDT by Hostage
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