Posted on 03/15/2010 6:04:43 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
You can’t be pro abortion and genuinely Catholic. There are no exceptions to this absolute “either or” choice, not even for nuns.
This is what makes Catholic Health Association President Sister Carol Keehan’s position so dangerous to the lives of unborn babies.
Here are three statements, one by Bart Stupak a rear pro life Democrat, one from Douglas Johnson, legislative director for National Right to Life, and one from the rather suspect Sister Carol Keehan. Which one do you think doesn’t ring true?
Stupak: “If you pass the Stupak amendment, more children will be born, and therefore it will cost us millions more. That’s one of the arguments I’ve been hearing.”
Johnson: “In reality, the Senate bill contains multiple pro-abortion provisions, which in total constitute the most pro-abortion single piece of legislation to reach the House floor since Roe v. Wade.”
Keehan: “On the moral issue of abortion, there is no disagreement …. On the technical issue of whether this bill prevents federal funding of abortions, we differ with Right to Life.”
In response to Keehan’s shilling tactics, the US Conference of Catholic Bishops has released an emphatic statement of its adamant opposition to Obamacare because of its abortion provisions.
In November the House passed a healthcare bill that specifically excluded federal taxpayer money for abortions.
In December the Senate passed a healthcare bill containing a directly opposite position. The Senate bill REQUIRES using our money for abortions.
Worse news for Catholic Hospitals
Keehan seems not to understand that NO version of Obama’s healthcare scheme protects her member hospitals from being FORCED to commit the abortions she says she doesn’t believe will be funded with our tax money. Keehan has apparently forgotten what she’s supposed to stand for.
Potentially losing federal money means more to her than baby’s lives.
(Excerpt) Read more at collinsreport.net ...
I think the Bishops have come out against ObamaCare, the MSM is trolling around for any wayward , apostate Catholic and holding them up as an authority. I have my issues with Catholic doctrines and beliefs and think they are dead wrong, but on this the church hierarchy , the official ones, has been pretty solid.
As a member of the Catholic Medical Association, I can say that the Catholic Hospital Association is an utter disgrace and that Sister Carol is an apostate.
The BABY DOOMER GENERATION has found its leader and his name is Barack Hussein Obama.
Sister Carol Keehan is probably a Liberation Theology adherer along with a Humanism supporter.
The Roman Catholic church has been corrupted by these twin evils.....but I still will remain a Practicing Catholic till death.
Thank you for saying that. We need more people to point these things out.
This is the “Apostate Church”.
Satan hates God’s special creation, humans.
So do those who work for the father of lies.
Statement on Health Care Reform
In a statement released on July 29, 2009, the Catholic Medical Association (CMA) calls upon President Obama and Congress to “hit the reset button” in their attempts to address the serious problems in the nation’s health-care financing and delivery systems. The CMA is concerned that the bills that have emerged from House and Senate Committees to date are too flawed, and the process too rushed, to provide meaningful reform.*
“While health-care reform is more important than ever, existing legislation in the House and Senate—combined with President Obama’s push for hasty action—could make our current, flawed system even worse,” said Catholic Medical Association representative R. Steven White, M.D. “Sound reform must be based on sound ethics and economics; but so far, the House and Senate bills meet neither standard.”
The CMA is particularly concerned about two significant ethical issues (1) respect for the conscience rights of health-care providers; and (2) a mandate to finance and provide abortion.
According to the CMA’s executive director, John F. Brehany, Ph.D., the conscience rights of health-care providers are not adequately addressed in any current legislation. “The House Tri-Committee bill does not even mention the topic of conscience rights of health-care providers, and Democrats on the Senate H.E.L.P. Committee voted against an amendment that would have prohibited forcing health-care providers to perform or participate in abortion,” stated Brehany. Brehany continued, “This issue is very timely, since the department of Health and Human Services canceled a Conscience Protection Rule earlier this year and has not announced what will replace it. Yet polls show that patients want physicians who are committed to ethics and who share their values. Coercing health-care providers to deny their deepest values and ethical commitment to patients’ well-being will harm the medical profession and undermine trust in the provider-patient relationship.” Brehany concluded, “In a July 2 interview, President Obama promised a ‘robust conscience clause.’ We think it is time to deliver the text of that conscience clause and make conscience protection an integral part of any health-care reform legislation.”
Abortion is another key ethical concern for the CMA and for most Americans. CMA President Louis C. Breschi, M.D., is alarmed that White House officials and the Senate H.E.L.P. Committee have refused to exclude abortion from health-care legislation. The House Tri-Committee bill never mentions the word “abortion, but most analysts think that, without explicit exclusion, abortion will be mandated by the Secretary of HHS and/or by the courts. According to Breschi, “Few people realize that, as things stand, abortion could be a required benefit in all health insurance plans, and it would be subsidized not only in health-care premiums, but also through taxation. This unjust mandate must be excluded.”
Apart from ethical concerns, the CMA finds significant shortcomings in the economic and clinical aspects of current legislation. First, as the Congressional Budget Office points out, the legislation does nothing to reduce long-term costs. Rather, current legislation increases costs by hundreds of billions of dollars even after tax increases and creative accounting measures. Second, the bills’ attempts to control costs and increase access rely on heavy-handed government control that is antithetical to the rights of patients and physicians, and to good clinical care. Dr. White commented: “Unprecedented powers are entrusted to the Secretary of Health and Human Services (as evidenced by over 1,120 references to the ‘Secretary’ and his/her powers in the House bill) and to a new authority—the ‘Health Choices Commissioner.’ Moreover, a Federal Coordinating Council on Comparative Effectiveness was created and funded, without adequate debate, by the Stimulus Bill; and there are valid concerns that the FCCCE could soon start regulating medical treatments based not only on clinical, but also ‘economic’ criteria.”
This heavy-handed federal control is made worse by two additional provisions. First, House bill regulations make it almost impossible for any current health insurance plan to survive in a new government-controlled regime. This would break President Obama’s repeated promise that Americans could keep their doctors and health-care plans—and remove the means for people to choose insurance which accords with their values and priorities. Second, House and Senate bills plan to extend health insurance coverage to millions of people by moving them onto the Medicaid rolls. However, the flaws of Medicaid are well-known—its costs have run out of control in most states, and 40% of physicians are compelled to refuse Medicaid patients because Medicaid’s low reimbursement rates do not even cover the overhead cost of office visits. Adding millions of people to this flawed system will not constitute meaningful health insurance coverage.
These problems would be exacerbated by a “public option” plan which would “compete” with private health insurance, as called for in the House Tri-Committee bill. But there is no way that private companies can fairly compete with the federal government. The government can establish below-market rates for insurance premiums and provider reimbursement and shift costs onto private companies. The government also can increase taxes or the federal deficit to absorb losses. The result is that everyone, sooner than later, will be forced to become participants in the “public option” plan and fully subject to the costs and regulations of government health care. When this happens, the American people will have lost the freedom to make important decisions about their life and health.
The Catholic Medical Association supports health-care reform that increases access and quality, and respects the values of providers and patients. These goals can best be achieved by legislation that empowers people to own their health insurance policies (as contrasted with government- or employer-controlled health-care insurance), and using targeted measures to help people who cannot afford the entire cost of their insurance premium. Legislation addressing some of these goals already has been introduced into Congress and should be reviewed to either improve or replace the current House and Senate bills.
In the meantime, current bills require such substantial amendment that it would be better to scrap them and start again. According to Dr. Breschi, it is critical for Congress to take the time necessary to address the complex economic and ethical issues involved, and to give the American people an opportunity to review any proposed legislation. Health-care reform encompasses both individual rights and the common good, ethical issues surrounding life and death, and economic issues ranging from taxes and property to economic competitiveness. It is essential that Congress first “do not harm” and then enact measures that can respect all of these complex goods.
*As a nonprofit corporation organized for religious, charitable, and educational purposes, CMA offers this information for public education purposes, and not for the purpose of advocating for the passage or defeat of any particular legislation.
That, and question authority ... "Yea, HATH God said ... ?"
Whereas, President Obama and Congress have been engaged in efforts to enact health care reform legislation in 2009 with the result that bills have been voted out of committees in both the House of Representatives and the Senate; and
Whereas, in an effort to change health care financing and delivery, some bills propose to vest, in a small set of unelected officials in the federal government, unprecedented powers to dictate the content of and charges for health insurance plans, the authorization of treatments, and provider reimbursement; and
Whereas, in the current legislative process, committees in both the House of Representatives and the Senate have refused to establish minimal, much less adequate, respect for the conscience rights of health care providers and have refused to exclude funding of abortion; and
Whereas, despite the significant shortcomings of current legislative bills and processes, Congress and President Obama have repeatedly expressed their determination to enact legislation before the end of calendar year 2009 – a timeframe too short to allow adequate consideration and transparency;
Therefore, be it resolved that:
CMA members urge Congress and their elected representatives to “reset” the effort to enact health care reform legislation, to reexamine their commitment to the principles of the current legislation, and to begin the process anew; and
Be it resolved that Congress enact legislation that respects the Principle of Subsidiarity by recognizing the rights of individuals, families, groups and communities to make decisions about their health care insurance and treatment options; and
Be it resolved that Congress enact legislation respecting the physician-patient relationship rather than legislation inserting more bureaucrats and regulations into this relationship; and
Be it resolved that before or concurrent with passing any health care reform legislation, Congress provide comprehensive, enforceable protection for the conscience rights of health care providers, institutions, and programs; and
Be it resolved that any health care legislation passed by Congress and signed into law shall exclude any funding of abortion; and
Be it resolved that Congress should enact legislation that respects the Principle of Solidarity in reforming Medicaid and Medicare and in providing a way for those who fall outside current social assistance programs to obtain basic health care services consistent with human dignity and justice; and
Be it resolved that Congress enact legislation permitting fair and transparent competition for health care insurance plans so that individuals and families can purchase affordable health insurance that comports with their values and needs.
The lies of Satan (Gen 3:4-5) are still alive and kicking our society around.
Abortion is a benign PC word..this is GENOCIDE of the UNBORN.
Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts. Be sure to call KNOWN RINOS too.
KEEP THE CALLS UP! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE
Code Red” - House Target List on Health Care
The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.
Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Bart Gordon 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (MAYBE)
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
James Matheson Toll-Free Number 1 (877) 677-9743 (202) 225-3011Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928,
Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (MAYBE)
On the Bubble (Major developments from the “yes” and “no” columns in the House)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2467046/posts
Congressional Dems on Twitter
http://www.arrghpaine.com/congressional-dems-on-twitter
And here are toll-free numbers we can use to call any Senators or Reps.
At the first number below you must wait through a tape recording urging you to tell your Rep or Senator to vote “yes” for the health care bill. Just hang on and when the recording is over, you will get the Capitol operator. Just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Then you will either talk to an aid or have the chance to leave a message for him/her to vote NO on the health care bill.
When you use the second number and the Capitol operator comes on, just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Every time I use this number I get the Rep or Senator’s answer machine, so it may be set up that way all the time...to go to their answer machine. Either way you can leave a message to vote NO on the health care bill!
We need to use these toll free numbers that have been set up for the health care/ BO supporters and illegals to use! After all they are FREE!
1-800-828-0498 , 1-866-220-0044, 1-866-338-1015, 877-851-6437, 877-210-5351
1. want to force American citizens to pay for abortions and,
2. want to eliminate the right of health care workers to decline to participate in procedures that they find morally objectionable.
This [Bush administration] rule would permit all healthcare workers to refuse to participate in any procedure they find morally objectionable.
When ever I see something like this I look for Jim Wallis’ fingerprints. They are all over it. Check out the connections between Wallis and Keehan:
Sister Keenan posting on the Sojourners web site. Sojourners is Jim Wallis’Mag and website (along with Beliefnet).
http://blog.sojo.net/2010/03/15/health-reform-a-major-first-step/
Jim Wallis is one of the signers of this letter being touted by the media as well;
http://marinprogressive.wordpress.com/2010/03/13/pro-life-support-for-health-care-reform/
An article penned by Jim Wallis, EJ Dione and Carol Keehan among others entitled
“46 Million Reasons for Health-Care Reform The moral imperatives for change.” Had to register to read it...not that interested. Written in NOVEMBER OF 09
Another connection on Sen Casey’s Website (D-PA):
http://casey.senate.gov/newsroom/press/release/?id=e5095338-3383-4512-b7ba-8ca993c7e13a
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