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President Obama backs DNA test in arrests
Politico.com ^
| 03/09/10
| JOSH GERSTEIN
Posted on 03/14/2010 5:43:52 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
President Barack Obamas embrace of a national database to store the DNA of people arrested but not necessarily convicted of a crime is heartening to backers of the policy but disappointing to criminal-justice reformers, who view it as an invasion of privacy.
Others also worry the practice would adversely affect minorities.
In an interview aired Saturday on Americas Most Wanted, Obama expressed strong agreement as host John Walsh extolled the virtues of collecting DNA at the time of an arrest and putting it into a single, national database.
We have 18 states who are taking DNA upon arrest, Walsh said. Its no different than fingerprinting or a booking photo. ... Since those states have been doing it, it has cleared 200 people that are innocent from jail.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; dna; fbi; obama; police
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To: OldDeckHand
Hmm ~ I suppose we could pass a law requiring people to quit emitting DNA.
They do pass it out for free all over the place.
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posted on
03/14/2010 6:20:10 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
("Git Out The Way")
To: CharlesWayneCT
Everyone whose ever gone into the military or federal employment has made a contribution to the fingerprint files.
Until the personal privacy people demand that those fingerprint files be destroyed they haven't got a hair in the debate!
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posted on
03/14/2010 6:22:17 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
("Git Out The Way")
To: Drango
DNA is much more than fingerprints.
It is your entire genetic makeup.
It can or soon will be used to identify folks with genetic predisposition to certain diseases among other things it has the potential to identify folks who should not be allowed to have kids among other things.
A national DNA data base is the ultimate invasion of privacy..deal with it.
To: CharlesWayneCT
Chuck, regarding using DNA to track/trace disease, most of the nastiest DNA situations are "KNOWN" from other public records regarding "cause of death" of relatives.
At the same time there are a vast number of DNA related problems where the number of different genes involved in creating those problems is so great that no one gene can be pinned down as a cause.
The costs could be quite high to track such things down.
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posted on
03/14/2010 6:24:34 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
("Git Out The Way")
To: montanajoe
And that camera....it can capture your spirit and you will never be free to rest.
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posted on
03/14/2010 6:24:40 PM PDT
by
Drango
(A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
To: Drango
To: montanajoe
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posted on
03/14/2010 6:27:03 PM PDT
by
Drango
(A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
To: freedumb2003
"I am so ambivalent I think the analogy to fingerprints is accurate. "Hey, just think how much money the obama can get by selling the database to the insurance companies....
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posted on
03/14/2010 6:31:50 PM PDT
by
matthew fuller
(obama- no watermelon salesman, but gun and ammo salesman of the century.)
To: muawiyah
Those people volunteered to give their fingerprints. They had a choice. People who are arrested didn’t have a choice.
If the state can allow a database of people who have been arrested, there is no legal reason why the state can’t order that every citizen provide a DNA sample for the database.
To: freedumb2003
They do this in England and make arrests for the sole reason of collecting DNA.
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posted on
03/14/2010 6:48:45 PM PDT
by
driftdiver
(I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
To: CharlesWayneCT
DNA is different ~ very soon we will be able to pop it in the hopper and produce a picture of your face.
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posted on
03/14/2010 6:49:32 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
("Git Out The Way")
To: OldDeckHand
“What a HUGE mistake this is.”
Too many people watch CSI and believe the BS on that program.
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posted on
03/14/2010 6:50:30 PM PDT
by
A Strict Constructionist
(The Constitution is the issue, other issues are small potatoes. If we fail none will matter.)
To: CharlesWayneCT
BTW, tens of millions of draftees DIDN'T VOLUNTEER to give fingerprints.
I hope you know that.
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posted on
03/14/2010 6:50:40 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
("Git Out The Way")
To: Drango
So you’re of the crowd that if you don’t have anything to hide you shouldn’t be worried about the govt?
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posted on
03/14/2010 6:51:33 PM PDT
by
driftdiver
(I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
To: driftdiver; Drango
Don't answer that question.
The government should always be DISTRUSTED, and there should be recurring rebellions in diverse places where tyrants are dragged from their palaces and strangled.
Even Medieval Venice once retired a Doge early. The successors were much more agreeable.
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posted on
03/14/2010 6:54:05 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
("Git Out The Way")
To: OldDeckHand
This is too funny. Liberals screamed about privacy rights when President Bush tapped in on cellphone conversations in Pakistan and Yemen. But when Obama wants warrantless access to our DNA, liberals are silent. Go figure.
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posted on
03/14/2010 7:06:29 PM PDT
by
Hoodat
(For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
To: OldDeckHand
Genetic information is so much more potentially devastating than just an ordinary fingerprint. Can you say "Gattaca"?
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posted on
03/14/2010 7:09:20 PM PDT
by
Hoodat
(For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
To: CharlesWayneCT
there is no legal reason why the state cant order that every citizen provide a DNA sample for the database. National Health Care. Done deal.
Submit your DNA Or be denied health care.
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posted on
03/14/2010 7:11:04 PM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
To: Drango
DNA is just like fingerprintsIt might be a good idea to do some studying before entering this debate.
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posted on
03/14/2010 7:14:31 PM PDT
by
paul51
(11 September 2001 - Never forget)
To: The Comedian
How about birth certificate checks? LOL. They probably have them, but the Kenyan can't be arrested when he has the SS surrounding him.
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posted on
03/14/2010 7:19:02 PM PDT
by
Defiant
(We are in a battle to the death between Karl and George. I will stand and fight for George.)
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