Posted on 03/13/2010 7:51:20 AM PST by quesney
Can't believe the National Review buried this nugget in the article. Disturbing, to say the least.
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Stupak notes that his negotiations with House Democratic leaders in recent days [about the health care plan] have been revealing. “I really believe that the Democratic leadership is simply unwilling to change its stance,” he says. “Their position says that women, especially those without means available, should have their abortions covered.” The arguments they have made to him in recent deliberations, he adds, “are a pretty sad commentary on the state of the Democratic party.”
What are Democratic leaders saying? “If you pass the Stupak amendment, more children will be born, and therefore it will cost us millions more. That’s one of the arguments I’ve been hearing,” Stupak (a pro-Life Democrat opposing the bill) says. “Money is their hang-up. Is this how we now value life in America? If money is the issue — come on, we can find room in the budget. This is life we’re talking about.”
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Basically, Rep. Stupak is coming to the same conclusion I came to a few years ago; the leftist moonbats within the Democratic party no longer need their more conservative counterparts. And that’s bad news. Particularly for conservatives. You see, the more conservative side of the Democratic party used to be able to keep the moonbats in check. Not any more.
There is an ebb and flow in American politics. One party will win for awhile, and then the other one will. We’ve now seen what happens when conservatives fail to cover their retreat, as they did in deserting the Democratic party en masse during the 80’s and 90’s.
Let me suggest something really radical here: conservatives should join the Democratic party and challenge the leftist moonbats in the primaries. Bring the fight to where the moonbats are.
Remember that most seats in legislatures and the House of Representatives change hands as the result of primary elections not general elections; gerrymandering has done a pretty job of making most seats “safe” for one party or the other.
Bela Pelosi is never going to lose her seat to a Republican. It just ain’t gonna happen. And if a Republican runs against her, she simply ignores the challenge, secure in the knowldege that in her district, there is little chance that a Republican will win.
The same cannot be said of a Democratic challenger. She would be forced to run something of an election challenge, depending on how formidable the challenge was. And here is the key point: it’s not so important that the conservative “Democrat” challenger win, it’s important that they run a just credible enough challenge to force her to spend significant resources to fight the challenge.
The Libertarians do a great job of running a reasonably credible campaign on a shoestring. And that’s all you really need to do: spend a little and make Nancy (or the leftist nutjob of choice) and their supporters spend lots more of *their* money. Just for example purposes, the cost of running a credible campaign for the House of Delegates here in VA is about $100K. It goes up exponentially for Congress. Make the moonbats spend the money to keep their “safe” seats.
The Dems wanted a big tent.
“Basically, human beings are a disposable drain on society.”
No, only unborn babies. They need to conserve resources to pay for health care for the millions of illegal immigrants who will become eligible for Obamacare once they pass immigration reform. And you better believe they will fight tooth and nail for such funding, claim that thousands will die if they don’t get health insurance coverage.
Well .. a lot of us have been praying for a breakthrough to the “real” democrats. More Catholics are democrats than repubs.
I surely hope Stupak will start a revolution within his party to reclaim it from the extreme left.
Well, if he is serious, then God bless him.
Nope, we don’t want him. I support his stand on life but little else of his political philosophy.
But I don’t see why the GOP House members and the Stupak Dems and the Blue Dog Dems don’t form a coalition and conspire to replace Pelosi with one of the Blue Dogs. It would be sweet revenge on the bitch.
But,politically, there would be little for the GOP to gain from such an arrangement.
This is true. Why it’s kept under such secrecy is another topic.
In addition, there should be a greater awareness of the long-term effects of the birth control pill on women’s overall health.
Agreed. I don’t want the pro-life dems either, my point was their views are not compatible with their party.
I am coming around to the following idea:
Everyone knew about Massa’s tickle wresting and gay antics.
The Democrat leadership held off on ethics charges, till these past few weeks, to send a message to Dems voting no on Healthcare
Agreed.
Well, to a liberal humans are a cancer on the earth, right?
“Well .. a lot of us have been praying for a breakthrough to the “real” democrats. More Catholics are democrats than repubs. I surely hope Stupak will start a revolution within his party to reclaim it from the extreme left.”
So why you do something really radical....join the Democratic party and help out?
It is still even money whether Stupak caves or not..
Isn’t Stupak “only” pro-life but liberal on everything else, like many regular Catholics?
“I guess that’s going to be the next big push?”
I wouldn’t be surprised. The moonbats in the Democratic party have no one within the party to hold them in check. This is what happens when conservatives fail to cover their retreat.
DEMOCRATS, not Democratic. THERE’S NOTHING FAIR IN HOW THEY DO BUSINESS.
I really should just stay away from articles mentioning “democrats.”
Yes, liberals support abortion for all except for their own births. Reagan once noted the hypocrisy that every single abortion booster has already been born. Liberals did not find that amusing.
Wow!
“If you pass the Stupak amendment, more children will be born, and therefore it will cost us millions more. That’s one of the arguments I’ve been hearing,” Stupak (a pro-Life Democrat opposing the bill) says.
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