Posted on 03/12/2010 6:03:29 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
According to Toyota, as reported by the Wall Street Journal, ABC's report on potential acceleration problems shows the tachometer at 6,000 RPM when evidence of the vehicle shows it is in park. ABC has replaced the video (never a good sign). Further, this story involves a manipulation of the electronics in question. Toyota's counter offensive came on the same day an out of control Prius was stopped with help from police on a San Diego freeway.
Whether or not Toyota product has rapid acceleration problems is becoming the "Elvis sightings" equivalent of the automotive industry. As such, it could be a reputation, fairly or unfairly, that lingers with Toyota for a long time.
It is ABC, who cares? They lie, even if once in a while they tell the truth, who can trust them? Who cares?
These are drive via IP type cars. Honda has a accelerator that uses a blue tooth like sensor in the accelerator pedal that controls the throttle...there is no direct connection from pedal to thottle in their civic. Toyota does something similar. If something is frying the circuitry or perhaps scrambling the electronics, then the engines are going to go haywire. The systems are wireless which makes me wonder if hackers could use a device to remotely reprogram or scramble these systems. I’ll bet space based satellites could do it with sufficiently focused targeting systems.
Disney is just doing the Obama/UAW plan to hit Toyota and foreign car companies with non-union plants in right to work states.
I think it is all about enriching trial lawyers, helping GM and getting UAW thugs/parasites into BMW, Toyo, Subarau, Nissan, Hyundai, Honda, Mercedes plants in the USA.
It means you don’t think the right way! Sometimes I think I’m on the wrong web site.
“what grudge is Disney Corp. holding against Toyota Corp.?”
What you should ask is— “What will Disney/ABC get or has gotten from the US government for shilling for them?”
I trust ABC far less than a company that works off of 50 year business plans!
Just remember, GM is now majority owned by the U.S. government and the UAW!!
Now step back and reconsider everything from that light.
I think I'll buy a RAV-4 just to spite 'em.
I'm sorry but I don't own a Toyota and absolutely hate the Prius and most of the folks that drive them but that 911 call was just plain stupid. I was curious about all of the reported issues but now it's starting to seem very fishy. I remember the hit job done on Audi back in the 80's and this is starting to sound like the same crap.
Prisuism: “Hey, it’s stuck and I can’t get it down!”
Bluetooth-like? Come on.
These systems are mechanical-linkage-less, they’re not wireless!
Slick?
Exactly! But it will cost Toyota millions to fight the U.S. government. A mad U.S. government will not give up for years. They will use the power of U.S. government regulatory agencies to try to hound Toyota into submission.
They want Toyota to offer the government a controlling interest in Toyota. It will never end.
Toyota's ads are now directing the hearts and minds of everyone who now owns or ever owned a Toyota to think again
about the relationship they have or had with Toyota and it's dealers.
Glad they are cashing in on several years of the relationship they have with many of the U.S. population.
Now I for one, trust Toyota far more than the U.S. government. My Toyota's gave me great service and then I still had a value at the end of the ownership cycle.
Who among you can say that about any branch of the U.S. government (except the military)?
Government takes over GM—top selling competitor becomes a safety danger. Coincidence? I’ve had Toyota’s since 1980. Dependable, great cars.
soetoro is a congenital liar, first and foremost. Start there and work your way down.
So why is it that many hundreds of thousands of Toyota cars in all the other countries around the world have never had an acceleration problem? Could it be that those countries don’t have governments that own a competing auto company? This stinks to high heaven.
That was NBC. They planted explosive devices in the saddle tanks. A GM spokesman got a copy of the video and it showed the fuses burning prior to the impact.
They are used to dialing 911 when McDonald's runs out of McNuggets.
Everything you said is undiluted hogwash.
It is in fact a Drive by Wire system, the same system employed by nearly ever manufacturer.
Signals created by movement of the pedal are sent, via a wire, to the ECU where it is converted into a different signal which opens the throttle body.
It is a fully wired system.
Why would a manufacturer spend hundreds of dollars on a wireless system when 5 cents worth of copper wire will do the same?
The part about possible spaced based hackers causing the problem I will leave to Art Bell.
Cheers,
knewshound
A friend of mine wrecked her Toyota a couple of days ago. The accelerator stuck and she said she could not get the car in neutral. It seems odd that this has popped up all of a sudden, but the problem is real.
I’ve owned one Toyota pickup, and was not impressed. I’ve also talked to a few Toyota dealers, and all of them tried the standard flim-flam stuff some car dealers will pull on the unsuspecting. These include adding scotch guarding and underbody rustproofing before putting the vehicles on the lot (and charging extra); installing after-market A/Cs and cruise controls and not telling the customer they’re aftermarket and therefore not covered by Toyota under warranty (and are also generally of inferior workmanship); etching the VIN # into the window glass and charging extra for it; and the classic doubling the sales tax scam. In Texas, sales tax on autos is only paid on the difference between the trade-in and the new car price, so if your trade-in is worth $10,000 and the new car sells for $20,000, you only pay tax on $10,000. One of them tried to charge sales tax on the entire vehicle price and pocket the difference. A lot of dealers try these scams, but I ran into some or all of them at every Toyota dealership I checked out.
Two of my friends traded in their Chevy pickups and got Toyotas. Both raved about them for about six months. One sold the Toyota after about a year and bought another Chevy. The other one has had consistent problems and keeps saying he wishes someone would steal it. In all fairness to Toyota, that one had an aftermarket turbocharger put on it, and I think that fubared the electronics.
As I noted on another post, a friend of mine wrecked her Toyota this week. She said she tried to put the car into neutral but could not get the shifter to move. Toyota has advised people to put their cars in neutral if they run into the acceleration problem.
Good Lord in Heaven. I’ve been on this site since ‘98....and now I’m being called a UAW member, Obama supporter, told I’m “on the wrong site”, etc., etc.
Makes me wonder what FR is becoming.
Use your heads and lose the conspiracy theories. There have been dozens of these incidents and more than a few have resulted in fatalities.
I don’t give a flying fiddler’s damn about ABC....we all know they’re liars. To equate legitimate criticism of Toyota with defense of ABC is beyond the pale.
Some of you folks should be ashamed of yourselves.
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