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Ryan: Dems Ramming "Shell" HC Bill Through Committee Monday
The American Spectator ^ | 3.11.10 | Philip Klein

Posted on 03/11/2010 3:49:03 PM PST by BarnacleCenturion

Rep. Paul Ryan says that Democrats are ready to ram a "shell" health care bill through the Budget Committee, on which he serves as ranking Republican member, to use as a vehicle to impose national health care.

In a phone interview with TAS Thursday afternoon, Ryan said that he expects Democrats to begin the complex process on Monday, under which they would have the Budget Committee approve a phantom bill by midnight, which they will then send over to the Rules Committee. At that point, the Rules Committee will strip out all of the language in the phantom bill, and insert the changes to the Senate bill that Democrats have negotiated.

"They don't have the votes right now, but they're creating the vehicle so that they can airdrop in whatever changes they want," Ryan said.

He said that Republicans are outnumbered 2-to-1 on his committee and don't have the votes to stop the bill there. Democrats will also be able to prevent Republicans from offering any amendments, but GOP members will be able to offer "motions to instruct" the Rules Committee, that Ryan said will be used highlight problems with the "unprecedented" step that Democrats are taking.

He said he expected Democrats to dust off last year's health care bills from the Education and Labor and Ways and Means Committees, to use as the vehicle for reconciliation changes.

He also warned against focusing too much on the reconciliation process in the Senate. "Reconciliation is a distraction," he said. "Once the House passes the Senate bill we have the massive new entitlement."

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; communism; democrats; healthcare; liberalfascism; obama; obamacare; palin; phantomhealthcare; socialism; socialisthealthcare
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Is this even legal?


181 posted on 03/11/2010 7:59:46 PM PST by oldvike (I'm too drunk to taste THIS chicken)
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To: Indy Pendance

“I have a die hard liberal relative, gov worker, complaining about furloughs. Boy oh boy, when us shlubs told her the truth about layoffs, her gov bennies, 15% unemployment, etc...... , she got all sheepish, she should be thankful she has a job.”

Yeah, I’m a contractor, Sheese, this really p1zzes me off and as a contractor I need to deal with furloughs also and still stick to the contract, which is never really a contract when you deal with almost any government. And in Maryland we are spoiled with all of the Federal contracts and locations like SSN and NASA, etc. Another reason why MD is soo blue.
Dammit. Anyway, It seems that some sanity is starting to seep in even to the folks that I deal with.


182 posted on 03/11/2010 8:02:38 PM PST by RedMDer (Recycle Congress in 2010, 2012... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: All

The GOP Beltway is reluctantly rallying around Slick Willard. Perhaps, the best way to stop Slick Willard is to let ObamaCare to pass. Then the GOP candidates will make repealing ObamaCare into an issue for the next few election cycles. With repealing ObamaCare as the #1 issue among conservatives, Romney will be hard pressed to spin support for RomneyCare and opposition to ObamaCare. It would reinforce Slick Willard being an opportunistic flip-flopper like Fox News Sunday & Don Imus. Romney said RomneyCare was wonderful piece of bi-partisan work.


183 posted on 03/11/2010 8:03:39 PM PST by yongin
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To: Indy Pendance

Griffins? Elaborate please.


184 posted on 03/11/2010 8:09:24 PM PST by bigoil
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To: Quix

“They all have arrogant attitudes. It just shows more brazenly on some and nearer the surface.”

They sure do (have arrogant attitudes). And this particular person wears it on their sleeve like a badge of honor.


185 posted on 03/11/2010 8:12:25 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: FreedBird

“Time to retire early to work full-time against these crazy people.”

Write a short letter to the editor to explain this to readers and get them to call their rep.. No reason to retire YET.


186 posted on 03/11/2010 8:15:28 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: mo

“Give ‘im this...

“It really comes down to this: My conservative political philosophy does not threaten or affect the freedom of liberals. I don’t ask them to sacrifice anything for me, but they DEMAND I sacrifice for them”


Thank you!! Very well said, mo. I’ve been irritated by this person before, who happens to be a relative. I’m the parent of an Iraq war vet and they won’t acknowledge it, but my son sacrificed for THEM! This person doesn’t appreciate the sacrifice our military folks make to keep their sorry asses safe and sound at home. Needless to say during all the time my son was in harms way, this person didn’t offer one word of support for him nor our family.


187 posted on 03/11/2010 8:17:04 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: BarnacleCenturion
“When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another . . .”
The time is now. It is past time to talk about secession and rebuilding a nation the way this one started out in the beginning.
I tire of the unending, relentless hypocrisy and corruption this Nation has allowed in the hallowed halls of government and of career politicians who have engendered themselves into a ruling class that they think knows better than the masses and ignores the notion that governance only is allowed by the express consent of the governed. Unfortunately only by separation will be able to rid ourselves of those hell bent on destroying this great Nation.
188 posted on 03/11/2010 8:23:02 PM PST by cashless (Unlike Obama and his supporters, I'd rather be a TEA BAGGER than a TEA BAGGEE.)
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To: Quix

I wonder how long God will put up with it. How many evil governments or religions? Clearly, ours is an evil government. How long? Today, we think 4 years is long. In history, 100 years was long. Or 1000 years. We reap what we sow. Are we in a long period of the destruction of America? Is it our demise? Are we near the end? Every generation thinks it’s the worst, and it’s their end. Is this the worst? Who knows...?.....

Only Freedom Beliving Patriots will survive......

I’ve made my peace with God. I’m ready to meet God. And I’m happy about that. Are we near the end? God says, you won’t know. So, is this just another struggle? Struggle with the future, coping with 70 different “industrial” revolutions? The future is UNIMAGINABLE, and no one, especially government, knows. But, have faith in God, that faith will guide us through the future. No matter what happens, God will guide us. He will protect America, freedom will prevail. Freedom will win.

Have faith. Liberty trumps tyranny.


189 posted on 03/11/2010 8:31:05 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Gone Galt)
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To: bigoil

You have to record Red Eye. Check Fox News’s schedule.


190 posted on 03/11/2010 8:32:46 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Gone Galt)
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To: TJC

Truth of the matter is that they will begin to withhold taxes for healthcare, but, no benefits for 2 years. Gee, its healthcare on the layaway plan. Who wants to bet they will spend the money people pay into this doonboggle? They yell and scream about this so-called crisis, but, it won’t even take effect for 4 years. And, geez, look at all the people who die daily because they don’t have healthcare.

November is a long way off, however, without any actual benefits available, I don’t see that it would be that difficult to overturn. This, of course, is just my opinion.


191 posted on 03/11/2010 8:35:22 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: Prole

They don’t care if they lose the next election. They will have started their programs by then and they know the Republicans will never undo them or take them away from the people once the ball has started rolling. They are willing to fall on their swords to establish this socialist program for the future of the party in the decades to come.

We’ve got to keep them from establishing a beachhead and turn them out as well.


192 posted on 03/11/2010 8:39:55 PM PST by Melian ("The seed is the same but the soil is different..." ~Fulton Sheen)
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To: CaribouCrossing

Thank your son for his service to all of us!!You must be proud of your boy.

This battle...one of the first in the Cold Civil War...fortunately can be fought here at home ..by us..from keyboards...so far...


193 posted on 03/11/2010 8:45:36 PM PST by mo
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The Communist Democrat Party and their ponzi shell games.


194 posted on 03/11/2010 8:47:00 PM PST by eaglestar
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To: CaribouCrossing

Wow.

Sad.


195 posted on 03/11/2010 8:50:52 PM PST by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Tuxedo
People are getting angrier and angrier. When you hear talk of secession openly - legal or not - and people mentioning the word Revolution (and they aren’t long-haired tie-dyed folks) then it’s time to gird the loins.

That's right! People used to mention "The R word" in hushed tones. Now everyone is loudly talking Revolution, especially if this Health Care Bill is passed by all these "tricks" they're talking about. I'm ready for the 200 million Car March to D.C., how about you guys?


196 posted on 03/11/2010 8:53:29 PM PST by Art in Idaho
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
Can you imagine the people of America about 1972 dealing with this problem. The dems are the torres. This has taken us across the line where they have set aside the law. We are no loner a Republic, but a nation of men. Those men are despotic democrats. This is abrogation of their oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

What now is left to us to deal with this despotism....the Liberty Tree needs nourishment.

197 posted on 03/11/2010 8:54:28 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: Indy Pendance

In the same passage where Christ says we won’t know the

DAY NOR THE HOUR

HE chides the Pharisees for being able to tell the weather but not the seasons.

Perhaps we’ll know the season or the year?

In any case . . . I’m convinced that these

ARE THE END TIMES with Israel again as a nation in 1948 or recapturing Jerusalem in 1967.

I believe that at least one person will be alive to see Christ return again who was alive at the time of one of those events.

imho.

I believe the globalists are deliberately destroying the USA in order to make establishing the global government easier.


198 posted on 03/11/2010 9:06:49 PM PST by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: what's up

grandson


199 posted on 03/11/2010 9:09:22 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Paul Ryan 2012.

Meanwhile - Palin is campaigning for Juan McCain as Juan’s close pal Graham-nesty is working with Obama and Schumer on amnesty.


200 posted on 03/11/2010 9:12:00 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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