"As you can see from the next slide, I am a horse's ass.
Can you guess why?"
Great Article, very clear and thought out!! All four pages are worth reading! See link for the entire article.
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Excuse me, but you want me to read 4 pages of something written by someone I’ve never heard of to explain why I should be a Palin-hater too?
I don’t think so.
Sarah Palin ping... :-)
For some reason Ziegler thinks that Obama can count to 4 years of failure as “Presidential Experience”. I suppose you could call it that but Carter was trying to claim the same thing. The American public does not want a failure who is actively trying to destroy the country in office. He also accepts the idea that Palin is a “quitter” in the eyes of the public. Frankly, she can point to a strong record of success as governor and it’s only the elitists who can’t understand that being out of office is not the same thing as being able to push an agenda.
No one should throw their hat in the ring just yet. It would be suicide.
Lets get through the November General Election and see what there is to work with after that.
I’m coming to the conclusion that Free Republic is probably the only place that Palin could win the nomination. It just doesn’t look good anywhere else.
I thought Ziegler was a palin sycophant
Sarah has a big surprise for Ziegler and a lot of folks here: she can beat Obama in 2012. All of the analysis will mean nothing when she starts getting on the stump and kicking ass at the GOP debates. PS it’s still only early 2010, Ziegler is ridiculous. He seems unstable and petty to boot. The whole thing how he was kicked off the radio station after a couple months really made me winder about the guy and also his clownish behavior at CPAC last year or whenever it was.
Palin 2012 (I guess I’m a Palin “worshipper” now).
I see that for whatever reason Ziegler is your favorite subject to discuss—and praise here on FR.
Let me get this straight - Palin is the ultimate political outsider, so she should run for the Senate, the ultimate insider's club, to gain cred.
Yeah, that makes a boatload of sense.
bump
Sarah can run because Obama is a one termer.
He can’t run for another term because of the new birth certificate requirements passed by numerous state legislatures.
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
We are about to see a sovereign debt, banking and real estate crisis the likes of which the world has never seen. Trillions of "dollars" will disappear into a black hole after a supernova of inflation like we've never seen. Anyone who thinks "health care" or "she's a quitter" is going to be on any sane person's political radar in November 2012 is out of their freakin' minds.
If we make it through next Christmas without U1 unemployment being below 15%, I will be shocked.
Sarah Palin will come along at just the right time in 2012, IMHO.
And for the anti-Palin agitators: there's one ONE I worship, and it's ain't Palin, but she knows Him too.
Well, now I know more about Ziegler than I did before, since this is the first time I’ve heard of him. I had a look at this and some of his other stuff at the web site. A real Palin supporter who has been disillusioned? I doubt it. I didn’t see anything in his article or his record that gives any weight to his views. All it tells me, yet again, is that a lot of people are desperate to derail Palin.
News for all of you; Sarah isn’t running—yet. We’re still in the House/Senate election cycle, and that’s the current priority.
I tend to agree Palin can’t win, but there’s one thing I question. He says Palin has negatives because of the media’s treatment of her and she won’t be able to change that...however, Obama once had high ratings, he’s now unpopular, and this is *despite* the media fawning over him...so, based on that, I don’t agree Palin can’t improve her popularity among the Great Unwashed.
I’m not convinced that Palin is ready.
I don’t see 2.5 years as a governor to be the draw some other people do. Palin may have the right instincts, but the right instincts don’t cut it without the proper experience.
Carter, Clinton, and Obama made it into the Oval Office mainly because folks didn’t know enough about these no-names until the election year. None of them were qualified to be president, and Carter and Clinton had been two term governors. Obama had even less executive experience than Palin.
What I’m trying to say, is that I don’t really care for inexperience on our own side any more than I care for it on the other side. Point to some success over a period of time, or don’t bother me.
I have stated this, because on point, I agree with Ziegler that she isn’t ready for prime time. That still doesn’t mean that I agree that Obama could beat her. By 2012, Obama is going to make Bush’s popularity numbers look good. This guy is sinking in the polls, and I don’t see a scenario where he recovers, short of saying I’m sorry and resigning. So unlike Ziegler, I think she beats Obama.
McCain carried about as much baggage as a guy could carry into 2008. Anyone with a quarter of a clue on the right, knew McCain was destined to get his ass handed to him. The only reason he didn’t, was Palin. I still say without her, he had 30% of the total vote. Even at that, McCain did not get swamped at the polls. He didn’t show well, but that’s not a McGovern, Goldwater, or Mondale loss.
Palin would not have the negative baggage McCain did. She would have the media trashing her. And some on the left would trash her. Still others would get behind her because she was the first woman candidate. The Right would get behind her. I don’t think independents who have seen Obama practically destroy this nation would see a level headed Conservative on the right as a huge threat. I don’t buy that at all.
Palin would pull in the right. She would pull in at least half the Independents, and she’d actually pull in some Democrat women. I must say I am still repulsed by the idea of a person becoming president because of their gender just as much as I was this jackass just because he was 1/2 black. And the margin Palin would win by would probably be close to the sympathetic gender vote. At least that’s how I see it.
Ziegler is wrong about whether she would win or not. I don’t believe he is wrong about her qualifications.
Folks, if we can’t find someone with decent experience that espouses the same Conservative ideals as Palin claims, then our nation is in a hurt locker of gigantic proportions.
What Ziegler also fails to address, is who do we run if not Palin? Giuliani? Romney? Huckabee? McCain again? That right there is where his logic falls to pieces. There isn’t anyone else widely known.
If Palin is the candidate, I’ll vote for her. I’m not going to champion someone at this point who is willing to check their Conservative credentials at the door and back a man like John McCain. That put her in no man’s land for me.
Really poor article, and not thought out at all!
This fool doesn’t see that Obama cannot be reelected in 2012, and also is so ignorant about Sarah Palin that he fails to see that every media attack has simply made her stronger and more popular.
I truly have to question his motives and his integrity.
He is a Judasgoat at best, and likely worse. This is the enemy folks so get to know him well, and it will greatly benefit our cause.
"As you can see from the next slide, I am a horse's ass.
Can you guess why?"