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On Fox and Friends Tomorrow: Freeper help with Texas Textbooks?
self | 3/7/2010 | LS

Posted on 03/07/2010 10:21:23 AM PST by LS

All: I'm scheduled to appear on three separate Fox shows tomorrow and Tues., including Fox and Friends twice about the upcoming Texas curriculum controversy. I think I have a handle on it, but I'd especially like Texas Freepers to weigh in, especially with any very recent developments I should know about.

Is there still a move to make all U.S. history instruction start at 1877, or has that been killed?

Are they still seeking to remove Christmas to make room for a Hindu holiday?


TOPICS: Announcements; Culture/Society; US: Texas; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: education; foxnews; historyeducation; texas; textbooks; tx
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To: LS
No investigation would be complete without reporting on the Texas Freedom Network. In 1995, TFN was founded by Cecile Richards, daughter of Texas ' liberal Democrat Governor, Ann Richards. Cecile is the president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America and still serves on the TFN Board of Directors. Cecile was deputy chief of staff for Speaker Nancy Pelosi and worked with the Service Employees International Union (SEIU). SEIU is closely associated with ACORN.
41 posted on 03/07/2010 1:01:24 PM PST by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: smokingfrog

Why not start American History in 1900 not 1873? That will give the students less stuff to have to memorize.


42 posted on 03/07/2010 1:03:36 PM PST by AlanD
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To: hocndoc

Texas Freedom (and I use the term loosely) Network shenanigans?


43 posted on 03/07/2010 1:04:19 PM PST by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: smokingfrog

Yeah, just got this information from some Texas people. Thanks.


44 posted on 03/07/2010 1:11:12 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: gitmo

Yessir.


45 posted on 03/07/2010 1:11:25 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS

I don’t know about Texas, but the NC move to make high school history begin with 1877 has apparently been killed.


46 posted on 03/07/2010 1:36:52 PM PST by MitchellC
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To: RWGinger

It was national FOX. The local FOX station is marginal at best so never listen to it.


47 posted on 03/07/2010 3:07:55 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: mware

Guess some of us who are more mature in years have a little problem with what constitutes history. I started living it in 1942 so what we studied in school was a relatively short period of time compared with what kids need to study now. Another reason for grandparents to spend time talking with the grandkids about the “olden days”.


48 posted on 03/07/2010 3:14:23 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

Grams
thanks
and you are certain they said the state of Texas was trying to do this versus the state of North Carolin?
NC has been in the news for considering this but I have not heard one word about Texas considering this.

If you google it there are articles mentioning North Carolina but none mentioning Texas

Could you have misheard it? Which Fox program was on when you heard it?
This is pretty important and should be verified


49 posted on 03/07/2010 3:56:57 PM PST by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger

Was early this morning and the female reporter indicated that the Texas Department of Education would be addressing the issue this week - I believe beginning Wednesday. They spoke about the impact that Texas’ educational decisions have on the rest of the nation because of the large number of students we have. It was on the FOX national news channel, not our local FOX. Before 9 a.m. central time. Remember thinking at the time that I needed to check FR to see if anyone else picked up on it and to alert my neighbors who have kids going to the public school. Sorry I can’t be more specific but that’s all I remember.


50 posted on 03/07/2010 5:30:00 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: RWGinger

One other thing - they did talk about replacing Christmas with some other holiday - one I didn’t recognize - and one of the male reporters also questioned this.


51 posted on 03/07/2010 5:33:16 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; adopt4Christ; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; ...

Ping


52 posted on 03/07/2010 5:40:31 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: BobL

Meteorologists ROCK!

She is so right. I saw the same thing when I went back to college and that was well before she did.


53 posted on 03/07/2010 6:02:08 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: grannyheart2000

Look what they’re erasing from U.S. history!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2449156/posts


54 posted on 03/07/2010 6:04:40 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

“She is so right. I saw the same thing when I went back to college and that was well before she did.”

What’s so powerful about her is that she says it with a smile and stays right on message - meaning that EVERYTHING she says about the books are from the books. I can’t do that...I’ll launch into the motives of the people shoving this stuff into our schools. She just tells people what it is and lets them make their own judgments.


55 posted on 03/07/2010 7:58:06 PM PST by BobL
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To: BobL

I know some people in public schools and have seen the *Everyday Math* curriculum and it is all as bad as she says.

It’s a terrible curriculum, very confusing to get around. The teacher’s manual, which is what I looked at, is even worse.

It’s no wonder the kids aren’t learning anything, because if the teachers use that as a guide to teach, they couldn’t do it coherently in the first place.

I was hoping that that nice meteorologist lady would recommend Saxon Math for remedial math for kids. We used it for homeschooling and it’s so well laid out and the explanations are so concise and easy to understand, that you can teach the subject even if you don’t have mastery of math yourself. What happens is that you learn as you go, as I did.

All that math that I was supposed to have learned in public school myself in the late 60’s and early 70’s that I didn’t get then, FINALLY made sense after going through Saxon Math (three times each up through Algebra II).

I did manage to pass calc in college myself with the help of a wonderful math prof who worked very diligently with me, but it would have been a lot easier if I understood math BEFORE going into calc, instead of after.....


56 posted on 03/07/2010 8:12:00 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Post 3 of that thread is the worst indictment of our current diseducation system that I have ever seen. Thanks for posting this reference.


57 posted on 03/07/2010 10:09:01 PM PST by matthew fuller (1962- Last year of intelligence- First year of television.)
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To: LS

LS,

Go here and/or google Jonathan Saenz, Liberty INstitute, lot of insight on Texas textbook controversies:

http://texaslegislativeupdate.wordpress.com/

http://texaslegislativeupdate.wordpress.com/2010/01/29/watch-our-fox-news-interview/

Also, Bill Ames had a great writeup in Texas Insider on the social studies TEKS controversy:

http://www.texasinsider.org/?p=18289


58 posted on 03/07/2010 10:45:03 PM PST by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: WOSG

Morning bump...F&F just ran a ‘promo’ for the spot.


59 posted on 03/08/2010 3:42:53 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: metmom; Tired of Taxes; wintertime

I’m of the view that textbooks are like toupees. Some are better than others, but all of them are fake. I wouldn’t be surprised if a recent college graduate were to join FR under the name Tired of Textbooks.


60 posted on 03/08/2010 5:36:59 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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