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Yakima kindergartner expelled for making a gun with hands
www.kndu.com ^ | 02/12/10 | kndu.com

Posted on 03/05/2010 6:52:07 AM PST by TornadoAlley3

YAKIMA, Wash.- Manuel Alvarez eats breakfast and gets ready for school. He's eager but nervous. He was expelled Monday from Barge Lincoln Elementary for making a gun with his hands. His mom says it's a hand gesture that could have easily been corrected.

"He didn't know did they talk to him about it what actions were taken to tell him this isn't allowed," Lorena Hurtado, Manuel's mother.

Manuel has a clean record never in trouble before his mother says a warning would have worked or even a parent-teacher meeting. Instead, His mom says, Manuel's afraid.

"I got a call from the School saying he's not raising his hand or speaking up. He's scared after we talked about not doing any gestures, he probably doesn't want to to do it because that could be a gesture. It might get him pulled out for two days," said Hurtado.

Manuel's mom doesn't see anything wrong with her son putting his hands like this and shooting down at the ground. She doesn't think it poses an immediate threat to the school or Manuel's classmates. We took the issue to School District employees and asked them about their policy.

"When students are at school they should be concerned about learning….safety shouldn't be a concern at school, we have a zero tolerance policy," said Dr. John Irion, from the Yakima School District.

Hurtado understands the policy, but in this case doesn't think the punishment fits the crime, especially when the student in question is in kindergarten.

"A five-year-old shouldn't be held to the same policy as a 12th grader...he is in kindergarten," said Hurtado.

Lorena Hurtado is appealing the expulsion and wants to try to clear her son's record. She says she doesn't want her five-year-old to be labeled as a troublemaker.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: arth; banglist; boys; discipline; expelled; gun; hands; kindergarten; kindergartner; publicschools
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To: ZULU

Lunes?


41 posted on 03/05/2010 7:21:13 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: TornadoAlley3

  This  is shabby journalism. The article doesn't mention whether the kid's hand was loaded.

 

42 posted on 03/05/2010 7:21:40 AM PST by Fintan
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To: TornadoAlley3

Sounds like what happened to my kid....we pulled them out and are home schooling now.


43 posted on 03/05/2010 7:22:53 AM PST by dnandell (I don't need no stinkin' tagline)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I can’t judge this without the answer to a couple of questions.

Was the boy’s finger loaded? Was it registered?


44 posted on 03/05/2010 7:23:33 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Dead Corpse

Loons? Lunes?

Is it Lune as in Lunatic, or Loon as in the bird???

Either way, its insane.


45 posted on 03/05/2010 7:24:16 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: dnandell

Seems to me the leftist controlled public school system has an agenda of

if we can’t indoctrinate, separate.


46 posted on 03/05/2010 7:24:52 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Fintan

Ah, you beat me by 2 minutes.


47 posted on 03/05/2010 7:25:28 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: metmom
Another Reason to Homeschool
48 posted on 03/05/2010 7:25:45 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: ZULU
Loon. Bird.

Luna. The Moon. Also root for Lunatic.

Lune... Dunno. Let's make something up. See if it sticks.

49 posted on 03/05/2010 7:26:39 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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To: Dixie Yooper

While I think this is extreme, the Yakima Valley is being taken over by gang activity.


50 posted on 03/05/2010 7:27:48 AM PST by shotgun
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To: MrB
If he didn’t say “bang”, then they should just get him for “brandishing” instead of “unlawful discharge”.

Or charge him with owning an unregistered suppressor.

51 posted on 03/05/2010 7:28:34 AM PST by CrazyIvan (What's "My Struggle" in Kenyan?)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

He’s a kindergardner.


52 posted on 03/05/2010 7:31:06 AM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I guess this is what the Liberal Statists have in mind when they call for bans on “HAND guns”?


53 posted on 03/05/2010 7:32:01 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: darkside321
we have a zero tolerance policy,” said Dr. John Irion, from the Yakima School District

Zero tolerance for what?

"Anything I don't like."

54 posted on 03/05/2010 7:32:42 AM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

“I got a call from the School saying he’s not raising his hand or speaking up. He’s scared after we talked about not doing any gestures, he probably doesn’t want to to do it because that could be a gesture. It might get him pulled out for two days,” said Hurtado.”

His mother shouldn’t pressure him. Let him just sit there and keep quiet. Anyway, it’s obviously safer that way. Leave it totally up to him to decide when he wants to participate.

The school created a problem. Let them live with it.


55 posted on 03/05/2010 7:36:14 AM PST by goldi (')
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To: wintertime
Another Reason to Homeschool

Best thing we've ever done.

56 posted on 03/05/2010 7:37:22 AM PST by ironwill (III - Molon Labe)
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To: TornadoAlley3
...we have a zero tolerance policy,” said Dr. John Irion, from the Yakima School District

The school had best never put on a play where violence of any degree whatsoever is acted out.

If "zero tolerance" means that even pretending to do something wrong gets you expelled, then it should clearly extend to discussion of wrong things too.

In fact, anyone who says the words "gun", "pistol", "rifle", "bomb" or "bang" on school property should go to jail.

After all, it's for the children.

57 posted on 03/05/2010 7:37:26 AM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
When we were kids...we proudly wore our six shooters..The caps were great...and tying my sister to a post...was even better.

And in the winter.....we had snowball wars...we spent day building the arsenal. Parents loved it...We were busy, busy, busy....and we shoveled the driveway, too. Anyone seen a kid shovel lately??

58 posted on 03/05/2010 7:37:44 AM PST by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: laotzu
From Jane Fonda to Jack the Ripper, every successful criminal in history has had opposable thumbs.

That's a little too broad to be accurate. Have you ever heard of the one armed bandit? Clearly he didn't have opposable thumbs. But he did have an opposable thumb. So to be accurate you must restate it as such, "From Jane Fonda to Jack the Ripper, every successful criminal in history has had an opposable thumb."

59 posted on 03/05/2010 7:38:43 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: MrB

re: “Blame the lawyers, though. If this kid actually harmed someone later and the school admin did nothing about his “propensity towards violence”, they’d be sued.”
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There is some truth to what you said. However, I also think this is one of those issues of the differences between boys/girls or men/women. On the playground, most of the boys like to rough house - they play act with Star Wars, Ninji’s, or soldiers, cops n robbers, etc. That’s what boys do - it’s part of their nature. As long as they are not actually hurting anyone or getting too physical, I let them play.

But, when I’ve been on the playground with other women on playground duty, they will stop the boys from playing in this manner. They think it is violent behavior that must be checked or the kid will turn into a serial killer or gang banger.

Most principals use common sense about the so-called “zero tolerance” thing, but some go off the deep end.


60 posted on 03/05/2010 7:38:56 AM PST by Nevadan
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