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Greece Aid Plea Snubbed by Germany in ‘Historic Moment’ for EU
March 4, 2010

Posted on 03/03/2010 7:43:54 PM PST by dajeeps

I can't post articles from Bloomberg.com here, but on their home page they have a story about Germany's hesitation in bailing out Greece.

It says that Merkel doesn't have domestic support for the bailout and thinks that if Greece cuts enough out of its budget that they can win back investors.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Germany
KEYWORDS: economy
http://www.bloomberg.com/?b=0
1 posted on 03/03/2010 7:43:54 PM PST by dajeeps
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To: dajeeps

Merkel knows that Greece is fubar and that financial aid to Greece is not going to change that. Merkel/Germany is looking to minmize the national default domino effect that will likely happen within this year (look at the economic situations in Spain, Portugal, the UK, France, Poland, etc., etc., etc.).


2 posted on 03/03/2010 7:46:29 PM PST by cranked
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To: dajeeps

did you know that Greek government employees get two months pay as a “holiday” bonus?

Meanwhile the sales tax is being raised to 21% to help for this largess.


3 posted on 03/03/2010 7:54:59 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: dajeeps; SAJ; Lazamataz; Toddsterpatriot

Nope. That’s just what the EU is telling their idiotic voters.

In reality, the EU has begun Operation Trojan Horse...which orders German private lenders to buy Greece’s new public debt.

That means that banks in Europe are deliberately purchasing toxic debt, knowing that the German government will be better able *politically* to bail out German lenders on the sly than to overtly bail out the nation of Greece.

Which just kicks the can down the road a bit...buys Greece a little time at the expense of weakening the entire European financial system further.


4 posted on 03/03/2010 7:58:04 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: GeronL

Why should Germans work to age 70 or 76 so Greeks can retire at 50? 21% sales tax - that will kill any economy.


5 posted on 03/03/2010 7:58:33 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: cranked

Did you see Greece’s plan for cutting the deficit? They are counting on extra revenues from tax increases. Seems like sort of a pie in the sky kind of thing when their economy is a mess to begin with and all the rioting isn’t helping matters. Additionally, a government can only tax so much before it becomes counter productive, creating black markets and like kinds of evasions.

I read a story about this a few days ago where some Greek officials were saying that Germany owes them money because the Nazis looted all their gold and never paid it back. I was pretty sure at that point a story like this was forth coming.

I agree. Greece is “fubar.”


6 posted on 03/03/2010 7:58:57 PM PST by dajeeps
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To: dajeeps

Nobody is strong enough to bail anyone out these days. Germany is smart, let them do what they can to cut spending. That’s what we have to do with California. If you keep bailing people out they will never learn.


7 posted on 03/03/2010 7:59:20 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: Frantzie

See post #4. The bailout of Greece is being done in secret via private German lenders.


8 posted on 03/03/2010 7:59:28 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Which just kicks the can down the road a bit...buys Greece a little time at the expense of weakening the entire European financial system further.

Like I said, there goes the Euro.

And Soros cashes in...

9 posted on 03/03/2010 8:00:24 PM PST by THX 1138 ("Harry, I have a gift.")
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To: Frantzie

Tha ain’t their only tax either.


10 posted on 03/03/2010 8:01:25 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: SAJ

Ping.


11 posted on 03/03/2010 8:02:39 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: cranked

But the Greek SOCIALIST govt promised to cut spending. How could the other Euro types not believe them?


12 posted on 03/03/2010 8:10:40 PM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: GeronL

It might have been on the Lew Rockwell website (sorry), but There was a cool story somewhere on the internet quite a few years back, I remember about legacy pensions. It was something like “the international order of pineal water carriers”; but I can’t find anything cached. Basically, about 1,000 years ago the folks who would run ice/snow down from the mountains to the plains before the advent of refrigeration, they formed a union, had a pension, get this, that was transferable to spouses or children?

Anyway the windup was, the government was still paying out some pensions up until the 1870s or something like that. yikes.


13 posted on 03/03/2010 8:12:13 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Southack

How can it be a secret, if you know about it? (sorry)


14 posted on 03/03/2010 8:14:04 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Freedom4US

lol.

Must have been in Europe.


15 posted on 03/03/2010 8:18:29 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: dajeeps

They need to slash spending and cut taxes. Getting out of the EU might be something to think about because they can still stay in the trade zone.


16 posted on 03/03/2010 8:19:52 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: GeronL

I know and I wouldn’t blame anyone for not helping them out. They are like the guy making 25K a year, driving a Lexus, living in a Mcmansion, sending his kids to private school and belonging to the Country Club, asking me to bail him out.


17 posted on 03/03/2010 8:32:26 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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