Posted on 03/03/2010 12:20:53 PM PST by shove_it
WASHINGTON President Barack Obama urged Congress Wednesday to vote "up or down" on sweeping health care legislation in the next few weeks, endorsing a plan that denies Senate Republicans the right to kill the bill by stalling with a filibuster.
"I don't see how another year of negotiations would help. Moreover, the insurance companies aren't starting over," Obama said, rejecting Republican calls to begin anew on an effort to remake the health care system.
The president made his appeal as Democratic leaders in Congress surveyed their rank and file for the votes needed to pass legislation by majority vote invoking rules that deny Senate Republicans the right to block it through endless stalling debate. Obama specifically endorsed that approach.
The outcome will affect nearly every American, either making major changes in the ways they receive and pay for health care or leaving current systems in place. There is still no certainty about the final result in Congress or even that Democrats will agree to the series of changes that Obama said he was including as Republican contributions.
GOP leaders were unmoved. [...]
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Hopefully this will fail after the fourth bullet, uh, ballot.
In Roman culture, didnt a thumbs down vote from the people indicate that the loser was terminated?
From what I’ve read it is the reverse; thumbs up = death, thumbs down = life.
It's not health care, it's a bloody coup.
Note to Hussein: that's pronounced coo, not coop.
If the people want it so bad (as the Fascists claim), why are the people fighting so hard to stop it?
You spoil ALL my fun!
The hypocrit in chief thinks an up or down vote on judicial nominees would bring down the Union, but not on this society changing bill?
Reminder: Obama voted against and gave an empassioned speech against the Republicans using a simple majority to approve Bush judicial nominees. Obama said at the time that the founders did not have this power grab in mind when they framed the constitution....
What a cute baby, so much hair!
My vote is CRAM IT.
Just after the STAGED spectacle I called TN Senators Lamar Alexander & Bob Corker, Alexander’s line was super busy, Corker’s wasn’t.
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That goes for me too...
That’s what my doctor says!
OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy
SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!
PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.
Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!
Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121
Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts
Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins.
(DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!
OBAMAs WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/
New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake. http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Friday, February 19, 2010
Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security
http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security
Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts
SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2462963/posts
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:
http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html
This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollees cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf
http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm
Bill Would Restrict Veterans Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries
Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/
By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009
Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.
Snip The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.
Snip
Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.
President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees in fiscal 2010, Matz said. We took them at their word, and I cant believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward, he added.
I will fight this tyranny to my grave.
I will disrupt the system any way I can.
I will ask other like minded to go to the emergency ward every day and say I am sick to clog the system.
I will find out how to hurt or clog health-care for everyone.
This is taking away my freedoms, enough if enough.
I will break the law to stop this!
Until it is repealed!
The Kenyan Krock of Krap really looked mean and Agitated while he babbled on today about his “Communist Manifesto on the OBOZO HUSSEIN Gobberment Deathcare Plan!” Again, his proposal is 10 double spaced pages of Areo fritto that non cleverly hides the 2700 pages of the Deathcare Manifeston that would make Stalin and Hitler proud and has Putin rolling on the floor in laughter!
MY doctor has said he’ll quit medical practice if this crap goes through and he knew many other like minded doctors, nurses and NP’s who think the same way!
Obamacare won’t survive coming doctor shortage
Examiner Editorial
June 28, 2009
President Obama’s ambitious plan for radically increasing the government’s role in the nation’s health care system misses one critical detail: There aren’t enough primary care physicians in America now and their numbers are declining. That means government won’t be able to deliver the expanded health care Obama is promising to millions of uninsured people. With access to primary care already deteriorating in many parts of the country, Obamacare will make it even harder to get a doctor’s appointment without a lengthy wait. “The politicians don’t talk about who’s going to do this extra work,” Dr. Jane Orient, executive director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons and author of the 1993 book “Your Doctor Is Not In,” told The Examiner. “Promised coverage is not the same thing as care. All you’re getting is a place in the waiting lines.”
A survey of 270,000 primary care physicians last November by the Physicians Foundation found that 76 percent described themselves as “overextended or overworked.” As a result, 30 percent plan to see fewer patients or scale back to part-time, 13 percent will look for a job that does not involve patient care, and 11 percent plan to retire. Since a third of all Medicare patients already have trouble finding a doctor to treat them, under Obamacare those waiting lines will be very, very long indeed.
And with the vast majority of medical students opting to enter more lucrative specialties, the U.S. will be short 124,400 front-line physicians by 2025, according to the Association of Medical Colleges. That doesn’t include the additional 15,585 primary care providers that will needed under Obamacare. Sick people will have to wait months or even years for an appointment and emergency rooms will be jammed as government-subsidized demand puts even more pressure on the dwindling number of primary care providers, Dr. Orient says. Foreign-trained doctors and nurse practitioners will have be called in to act as the primary gatekeepers in Obama’s supposedly new and improved health care system.
When Massachusetts mandated health insurance for all its residents, visits to the state’s emergency rooms jumped 7 percent in two years because many people did not have access to a primary care physician and some patients are being forced to endure “group doctor visits” instead of one-on-one care. How can Obamacare work if there’s not enough primary care physicians in the system now? “It won’t work,” Dr. Orient predicts. “It’s going to be a disaster.”
A disaster that’s entirely preventable, we might add, if Congress can conjure up the courage to say “No” to this audacious power grab.
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Obamacare-won_t-survive-coming-doctor-shortage-7886872-49202437.html#ixzz0h9HU46bN
At least ‘Hillary’ happens to be drinking one of my favorite beers, Black Butte Porter by Deschutes Brewing Company. Mmmm Mmmm good.
The unemployment rate is going to start upward and crack 10% and the economy is going to further sour. He and the Dems know they need to ram something through now. Its a perishable window of opportunity for them.
Let’s have an up-or-down vote on abolishing the Departments of Education, Housing and Urban Renewal, Labor, etc. Barry.
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