Posted on 03/03/2010 2:11:25 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
The Hawaii Department of Health claims to have an original copy of Barack Obama's birth certificate, right?
In fact, it is this established "fact" that has persuaded so many people there is nothing to the question of eligibility.
After all, an official in Hawaii has made a public pronouncement that she has inspected the document and declared on her own authority that Obama is a "natural born American" and thus eligible to serve as president.
For many Americans, that settles the question.
However, now a new version of the story is emerging.
The United Kingdom's Sky News reported Saturday: "Authorities in Hawaii have provided an electronic record of Obama's birth because the paper copy was destroyed in a fire which wiped out much of the state's archives."
Which is it?
Does Hawaii actually have an original long-form, paper birth certificate for Obama, or was it destroyed in a fire?
It seems the story is ever-changing.
And that's why it's time for Obama to come clean.
There is little question the heavily Democratic state of Hawaii has no interest in providing any information that would disqualify the first president claiming to be from that state.
If indeed the state has a copy of the original birth certificate, as Director of Health Dr. Chiyome Fukino claims, it should be no problem for Obama to give her permission to release it publicly – and, once and for all, settle the controversy that has resulted in that state being inundated with inquiries from curious American citizens.
Fukino has released two public statements on this matter.(continued)
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
What employees are you talking about?? You’re off on a logical fallacy or bizarre tangent.
For some reason, Cheney didn’t ask for objections, which I believe is how the procedure is supposed to go ... plus Fancy Nancy was pushing things along. Of course, at that time, we don’t know with as much certainty as we do now that the certificate number was most likely fraudulent. There may have been questions, but not to the point where anyone felt comfortable raising an objection.
Please cite the source for you reasoning. Sounds like good drama, but it may be short on factuality.
I agree that Vice President Cheney SHOULD have asked for objections to the certification of Obama’s Electoral votes. The most likely explanation to me is that because objections had to be submitted in writing and he had received none, he didn’t bother asking the question. Any of the 535 members of Congress couls have raised a point of order if they had a written objection to submit, none did.
Dick Cheney, President of the Senate was running the joint session, not Pelosi.
I already posted a link to the section of Hawaii law that allows for subpoena of vital records without the permission of the person named on the record. Here’s the link again, point 9 is what I’m referring to:
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.htm
Obama’s birth certificate can be released to a person with a valid court order from a court of competent jurisdiction.
If there was ever an investigation of Obama for forgery or fraud in connection with his internet posted COLB, a subpoena could be issued by a judge to a prosecuting attorney such as a US Attorney, a state Attorney General or a local District Attorney.
All states’ chief election officials cannot be lumped into one category. Some states take the political parties’ vetting process as their own, others do not.
The plaintiffs in the Indiana case tried to use Obama’s father not being a citizen as the basis of their claim. The Court rejected that argument but that doesn’t mean that a higher or different court won’t rule differently. You can read the Indiana court’s decision for yourself here. Pay particular attention to section B “Natural Born Citizen” which begins on page 10 of the decision.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/22488868/ANKENY-v-GOVERNOR-OF-THE-STATE-OF-INDIANA-APPEALS-COURT-OPINION-11120903
I’m certain that Obama does not want the eligibility issue to ever go away. It plays very well with his political base and it allows him to play the victim of right wing fanatics.
As Obama’s hero Saul Alinsky, explains: “The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.”
I have no problem with anyone who wants to continue the fight for Obama’s records and files. That is the right of every American to demand more information and to vote against a candidate who isn’t forthcoming enough.
You may have missed the part earlier where I said we need a USSC case.
There have been seven attempts to interest the Supreme Court: Berg v Obama; Donofrio v Wells; Craig v US; Herbert v US, Obama and Roberts; Lightfoot v Bowen; Schneller v Cortes; and Wrotnoski v Bysiewicz. The Justices have shown no interest in any of them and when they are presented in Justices’ conference, it only takes four of the nine to agree to hear a case (the Rule of Four) so it looks like even the five conservative Justices aren’t interested.
Thank you for defining part of the problem.
There’s no problem. There is just a political issue with different points of view, like any other political issue.
Are ABC, CBS, NBC, FactCheck, and N.Y. Times ‘birthers’ too?
McCain ‘birthers’: ABC, CBS, NBC, FactCheck, N.Y. Times
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2466865/posts
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=127362
Eligibility issue was huge in 2008 when Obama opponent was focus of attention
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