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McDonald discussion [SCOTUS 2nd A case]

Posted on 03/02/2010 7:52:21 AM PST by ctdonath2

There's a lot of interest in the McDonald case's oral arguments happening right now.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
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To: Filo

What really upsets me is that on P&I it would open the doors to challenge many federal and state laws that infringe on us daily, yet with the DP argument it’s only going to affect one single issue.

Don’t get me wrong, I want to see the 2A be incorporated more than most seeing that I live in Massachusetts, and this would open the door to many changes in our current laws, but the P&I argument would of blown the doors off the hinges.

The NRA won’t be seeing any money from me this year, they’re only in this to justify their existence, honestly, they’ve left us here in Mass hung out to dry, if it wasn’t for GOAL (Gun Owners Action League) we wouldn’t have any voice as gun owners in this state.


41 posted on 03/02/2010 8:10:12 AM PST by gjones77
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To: rickomatic

The problem with listening to one side’s argument is that the other side usually has very good arguments too.

Most SCOTUS cases gould go either way. That’s one of the importanmt reasons why they were awarded certiorari.


42 posted on 03/02/2010 8:10:34 AM PST by MindBender26 (Prezdet Obama is what you get when you let the O.J. jury select a president !)
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To: ctdonath2
 

43 posted on 03/02/2010 8:10:41 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Free Republic. The BEST place anywhere to PIMP YOUR BLOG)
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To: ctdonath2

Would you mind posting any of the relavant tweets?


44 posted on 03/02/2010 8:10:51 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
...tastes like watery dog food.

Wondering how you know what watery dog food taste like?

45 posted on 03/02/2010 8:12:09 AM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: mikelets456
Do you think that if the ruling comes down in favor of the 2nd Amendment in this case anything will change in NJ?

Guns are legal to possess in NJ but NJ has incredibly restrictive laws on them. I think it will come down to another case before the Supreme Court, perhaps on the right to carry, before anything changes in NJ.

46 posted on 03/02/2010 8:12:14 AM PST by Cagey
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To: ctdonath2

Out of curiosity, I just watched the “Supersize Me” movie. Other than Subway, I don’t think I’ll ever eat at a fastfood place again.


47 posted on 03/02/2010 8:13:40 AM PST by Spudx7
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To: edcoil

I think they taste great AND are less filling... so what do I do now?


48 posted on 03/02/2010 8:13:48 AM PST by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: Spudx7

There is another movie about someone who LOST weight eating at McD’s or someplace - it came out as a satire of ‘supersize’ to show its bias


49 posted on 03/02/2010 8:14:52 AM PST by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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50 posted on 03/02/2010 8:15:56 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: Mr. K

I thought McDonald’s had the best shakes, but had one at Burger King the other day, and it was even better! Too bad I’m on a diet now.


51 posted on 03/02/2010 8:16:08 AM PST by Joann37
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To: frogjerk

LOL!


52 posted on 03/02/2010 8:16:40 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ctdonath2

You should ask a mod to pull this.


53 posted on 03/02/2010 8:17:09 AM PST by green iguana
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To: gjones77
What really upsets me is that on P&I it would open the doors to challenge many federal and state laws that infringe on us daily, yet with the DP argument it’s only going to affect one single issue.

Exactly. That's why I like that Gura is pushing P&I. I think it's obvious (to the majority of the SCOTUS, at least) that the 2nd has to be incorporated. They just can't say that the rest of the BoR is somehow different...

Don’t get me wrong, I want to see the 2A be incorporated more than most seeing that I live in Massachusetts, and this would open the door to many changes in our current laws, but the P&I argument would of blown the doors off the hinges.

Exactly. And I'm in CA with the same hopes and dreams. :)

The NRA won’t be seeing any money from me this year, they’re only in this to justify their existence, honestly, they’ve left us here in Mass hung out to dry, if it wasn’t for GOAL (Gun Owners Action League) we wouldn’t have any voice as gun owners in this state.

We've got CalGuns out here doing a bang-up job.

The NRA continues to get my donations because they do a good job on the political front and I like the idea of feeding the 800 pound gorilla to keep him big and ornery.

That doesn't mean I have to like everything they do.
54 posted on 03/02/2010 8:17:12 AM PST by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: ctdonath2

55 posted on 03/02/2010 8:17:37 AM PST by Palter (Kilroy was here.)
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To: ctdonath2

Today at the Court
McDonald v. Chicago argument
Erin Miller | Tuesday, March 2nd, 2010 8:59 am

The Court is expected to announce opinions at 10 a.m., which we will be live-blogging. Then the Court will hear argument in the gun rights case McDonald v. City of Chicago and in Hui v. Castaneda:

~10 a.m. – At issue in McDonald v. City of Chicago (08-1521) is whether the Second Amendment’s individual right to keep and bear arms should apply (or be “incorporated” against) to state and local governments, through either the Privileges or Immunities Clause or the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Lyle Denniston’s extensive background post on the case is here.

~11 a.m. – In Hui v. Castaneda (08-1529; 08-1547), the Court will consider whether “Bivens actions” may be brought against doctors and nurses in federal medical facilities regarding flaws in medical care claimed to violate patients’ constitutional rights, when patients may also sue under the Federal Tort Claims Act. Luke Appling, a student at Harvard Law School, previews the case this morning for SCOTUSblog.

http://www.scotusblog.com/2010/03/today-at-the-court-131/


56 posted on 03/02/2010 8:17:49 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Admin Moderator

Please delete this thread. Jokers have hijacked it from the beginning. Another thread with a better title has been started.


57 posted on 03/02/2010 8:19:00 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Nothing like endless bloody theological cage matches to win new souls to Christ.)
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To: ctdonath2
Jokes elsewhere, please. This is breaking news on a major Constitutional issue.

Coulda sworn the second amendment was there to protect the first.

I doubt the jokes will interfere much with the rapid pace of the breaking news anyway.

58 posted on 03/02/2010 8:19:05 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: green iguana

Just did.


59 posted on 03/02/2010 8:19:21 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Nothing like endless bloody theological cage matches to win new souls to Christ.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Hey, McDonalds is advertising their double fish filet sandwiches. Yummy.


60 posted on 03/02/2010 8:19:51 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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