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WHITE HOUSE HEALTH CARE MEETING - LIVE THREAD
The White House ^ | 2/25/10 | Blueyon

Posted on 02/25/2010 6:18:39 AM PST by blueyon

Televised Meeting to talk about healthcare..........


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: sono

NEW RULES

Mitch not allowed a time clock anymore.


1,921 posted on 02/25/2010 9:12:17 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (BZZZZZ..."There's not a dime's worth of difference between Democrats and Republicans".)
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To: KansasGirl; All

Pelosi: Health Reform Will Create 400,000 Jobs ‘Almost Immediately’...

I’m still waiting on those Obama-promised “600,000 Summer Jobs!” from last year!!!


1,922 posted on 02/25/2010 9:12:18 AM PST by tcrlaf (Obama White House=Tammany Hall on the National Mall)
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To: blueyon

Obama is being arrogant... He just said “I do not want Mitchel to give me the time clock count again” or something to that effect.


1,923 posted on 02/25/2010 9:12:35 AM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: Mr Rogers

MY BP is now 134/85. not too bad, The meds are working.


1,924 posted on 02/25/2010 9:12:51 AM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Batman11

“I don’t count my time because I’m the King!”

Fixed it.


1,925 posted on 02/25/2010 9:12:52 AM PST by Fresh Wind ("...a whip of political correctness strangles their voice"-Vaclav Klaus on GW skeptics)
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To: PghBaldy

Obama was quick to jump on no references to the PEOPLE being mad at WASHINGTON . . . yet he does address as to WHY THE PEOPLE are mad at WASHINGTON.


1,926 posted on 02/25/2010 9:12:53 AM PST by mentor2k
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To: SE Mom
There’s an undercurrent here...and it’s not pretty.

Totalitarianism is like that. :0/

1,927 posted on 02/25/2010 9:13:06 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: Trust but Verify

WLS has Rush

http://www.wlsam.com/article.asp?id=152352


1,928 posted on 02/25/2010 9:13:08 AM PST by roving
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To: Diogenesis

Obama is an ass. Nuff said. I may be going over to Rush soon....can’t stand to listen to this guy talk. He has so much pent up agression toward middle America and the little guy and toward the Republicans!


1,929 posted on 02/25/2010 9:13:11 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (This nation must not die on our watch.)
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To: hoosiermama
“I love how Zero keeps saying, we’re not here for you to disagree, we’re here for you to agree with us.”

Exactly. They want people to walk away from this believing that Republicans oppose their plans for crass political reasons alone.

1,930 posted on 02/25/2010 9:13:11 AM PST by fullchroma (Obama: GET OUT OF MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

POS.

I like the phrase and Obama knows it’s a winner.

Keep using it GOP!


1,931 posted on 02/25/2010 9:13:11 AM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: dennisw

It is going to make them look petty and foolish. Especially when the news of the day is that the Democrats and Obama monopolized the time lecturing the Republicans.


1,932 posted on 02/25/2010 9:13:18 AM PST by listenhillary (the only reason government wants to be our provider is so it may become our master)
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To: jennyjenny

I hope some of the clips of Kyl go viral on YouTube.


1,933 posted on 02/25/2010 9:13:33 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (The dogs barked and the caravans rolled on!)
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To: philetus

Will Obama be huddling with Rahm and Axelrod during lunch, trying to pick up the pieces?


1,934 posted on 02/25/2010 9:13:48 AM PST by rod1
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To: blueyon

for later


1,935 posted on 02/25/2010 9:13:51 AM PST by PMAS
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To: TornadoAlley3
Great sign in #1840... I've got to remember that one.

There are going to be MANY more Tea Parties in 2010... we must never give in to these morally bankrupt 'RATs!

1,936 posted on 02/25/2010 9:13:52 AM PST by nutmeg (Rush Limbaugh & Sarah Palin agree: NO third parties! Take back the GOP)
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To: Trust but Verify

I put the dawg & pony show on mute - with closed caption - and am now tuning into Rush.


1,937 posted on 02/25/2010 9:13:57 AM PST by texanyankee
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To: texanyankee

Yup. One.


1,938 posted on 02/25/2010 9:13:59 AM PST by fullchroma (Obama: GET OUT OF MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE!)
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To: All

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YTExYWFlYTMwYTcxNzlhYzUzNzdmZWQyODA0YjZkMTg=

Will Obamacare Raise Individual Premiums or Won’t It? [Daniel Foster]

President Obama and Sen. Lamar Alexander (R., Tenn.) had a (quite civil) disagreement just a few minutes ago about whether the CBO says the Senate bill will raise or lower insurance premiums in the individual market.

On rhetorical grounds, I agree with Rich that Obama won the brief exchange, telling Alexander “I’m pretty sure I’m not wrong” and promising to “settle” the question before the end of the debate. But the issue is a tricky one.

Here’s what the CBO Director said of the bill: “The average, unsubsidized premium per person covered (including dependents) for new nongroup policies would be about 10 percent to 13 percent higher in 2016 than the average premium for nongroup coverage in that same year under current law.”

Point Lamar.

But the president countered by saying the increase would be the result of Americans choosing better coverage, referring to this, also from the CBO Director: “Average premiums in this market would be higher than under current law primarily because the typical insurance policy in this market would cover both a substantially larger share of the average enrollee’s costs for health care and a slightly wider range of benefits.”

Point Obama, right?

But the key is that the president said people would choose better coverage at a higher cost. That’s misleading. Once more from the CBO Director:

That outcome would reflect the requirement that all new policies in the nongroup (and small group) market cover at least a minimum specified set of “essential health benefits”; the requirement that such policies have a certain minimum actuarial value (that is, the percentage of costs for covered services that the insurer pays); and the design of the federal subsidies, which would encourage many enrollees in the newly established insurance exchanges to join plans with an actuarial value above the required minimum.

So Americans would “choose” more expensive plans because the government would make typical plans more expensive via sweeping new regulations, and would shift the added cost to the taxpayer through massive subsidies.

Final score: whether one thinks that it was Alexander or Obama who won on the semantics, there is no question that we all lose on the substance.

UPDATE: Senator Kyl (R., Ariz.) just gave the lie to the Obama claim quite effectively. He’s been the best Republican so far. Kyl focused on how the fact that the bill needs to raise so much revenue leads it to hurt some of the very people it is intended to help, e.g., raising the bar for deducting catastrophic health-care costs from taxes would impact middle-aged, middle-class Americans most.

02/25 11:42 AM


1,939 posted on 02/25/2010 9:14:00 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: jennyjenny

The Republicans just sound like the kind of guys that you want in charge of these kind of things. You know, kinda like you always looked up to your Daddy to make decisions for you.


1,940 posted on 02/25/2010 9:14:01 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT (General, sir, it's ok to call me "ma'am"!)
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