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Bennett Vs. Beck
HotAir.com ^ | February 21, 2010 | Karl

Posted on 02/21/2010 7:32:16 PM PST by raptor22

[F]or him to continue to say that he does not hear the Republican party admit its failings or problems is to ignore some of the loudest and brightest lights in the party. From Jim DeMint to Tom Coburn to Mike Pence to Paul Ryan, any number of Republicans have admitted the excesses of the party and done constructive and serious work to correct them and find and promote solutions. Even John McCain has said again and again that “the Republican party lost its way.” These leaders, and many others, have been offering real proposals, not ill-informed muttering diatribes that can’t distinguish between conservative and liberal, free enterprise and controlled markets, or night and day. Does Glenn truly believe there is no difference between a Tom Coburn, for example, and a Harry Reid or a Charles Schumer or a Barbara Boxer? Between a Paul Ryan or Michele Bachmann and a Nancy Pelosi or Barney Frank?

To say the GOP and the Democrats are no different, to say the GOP needs to hit a recovery-program-type bottom and hang its head in remorse, is to delay our own country’s recovery from the problems the Democratic left is inflicting. The stakes are too important to go through that kind of exercise, which will ultimately go nowhere anyway — because it’s already happened.

I doubt Beck would deny that there is a difference between Michelle Bachman and Barney Frank.

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To: ICCtheWay
Perhaps - but if the Republicans ignore the Tea Party factions - then the Republicans will lose... big time...

Yup..but they really can't ignore the TP. TP people are filling precinct committee slots, they are the primary voters. Unless something odd happens, they will be the GOP in a few months.

21 posted on 02/21/2010 8:26:26 PM PST by Brugmansian
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To: no dems

I hold that all human beings are born to sin. With him, its just a lot more obvious then with most. Yet, he does get elected.


22 posted on 02/21/2010 8:26:30 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Brugmansian

We Hope -— Tea Party people sensible people who finally got tired of the CRAP from the RNC.


23 posted on 02/21/2010 8:42:53 PM PST by ICCtheWay
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To: Brugmansian

I agree with you there is nothing wrong in meeting with Obama and they would be hung out to dry if they didn’t.


24 posted on 02/21/2010 8:46:15 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Rick Perry - TX Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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To: Brugmansian

Very well said! Please keep posting as your comments make Common Sense which is missing a lot today!


25 posted on 02/21/2010 8:47:10 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Rick Perry - TX Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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To: PhiKapMom
Well, thank you! Let's hope Republicans do good. They should. Obama has shown how weak he is by asking for this meeting. It means:

1. He can't get his party to pass the bill
2. He can't bribe or blackmail any Republicans to get them to go along
3. He is reduced to relying on the prestige of the office, not any personal appeal, to try to advance his agenda.

26 posted on 02/21/2010 9:00:45 PM PST by Brugmansian
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To: NVDave
Beck is right. The GOP, *as a party*, shows very little difference from the DNC on spending.

I can discern a difference between $300 or $400 billion deficits and $1.4 and $1.9 trillion dollar deficits. I can discern a difference between funding, say the Medicare prescription bill and funding ACORN, Teachers Unions and the SEIU. I can discern a difference between funding NASA at normal levels of increase and cutting its funding.

27 posted on 02/21/2010 9:04:22 PM PST by Brugmansian
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To: Brugmansian

If McCain were POTUS today, would be be vetoing the budgets that have $1.4+ trillion deficits?

I don’t believe so.

ACORN was funded under the Bush administration. The teachers unions got bigger under the Bush administration. The SEIU grew bigger under the Bush administration.

NASA should simply be eliminated. There is no end of mischief in the global warming arena that could be eliminated with the elimination of NASA.


28 posted on 02/21/2010 9:38:13 PM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave

But no one can make the case it is the same. It isn’t. Nothing ever is. The parties are different. McCain would not fund what Obama funds at the same levels. Its just demoralizing and counterproductive to go on and on as Glenn Beck does about how there ain’t no difference between nuthing.


29 posted on 02/21/2010 9:45:30 PM PST by Brugmansian
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To: Brugmansian

The difference in spending is only a matter of degree. Bennett’s point, that there are individual critics within the GOP, needs to be challenged. There will always be individual GOP politicians who don’t like the way the elites are running the party, but that bears no relevance to the fact that the elites who run the GOP are frighteningly similar to those who run the Democrat party. The fact that major players in the GOP are unable to influence the socialist drift of the GOP is proof that the GOP cannot be reformed. Sure, they will make the appropriate noises, then they will back anyone except a real conservative. I’m through with the GOP’s cynical co-opting of conservatism. The party has absolutely nothing to offer.


30 posted on 02/21/2010 9:46:44 PM PST by rockhardo
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To: raptor22

In the short term we need the Republican Party. In the long term I don’t even trust the Tea Party types not to be corrupted by Washington.

I don’t know enough about Nebraska’s nonpartisan legislature to know if it works but it sounds good. Besides in the heyday of our two party system people was more uniform. You either was a Chevy man or a Ford man or perhaps a Dodge person. You either liked Coke or Pepsi. People watched only ABC,CBS,NBC,PBS. Nowadays there is so many individual choices and differences that one size fit all Republican or Democrat isn’t going to make most people happy.

It is time to elect individuals rather than party to Washington.


31 posted on 02/21/2010 9:47:27 PM PST by Swiss (Reality don't seem real anymore)
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To: Man50D
I have not had any Republican politician give to me the “Come to Jesus Moment” yet like Tiger Woods. Tiger didn't need to do that; it was between him and his wife.

Republican politician needs to give to all the Conservatives who gave money, support, and their vote a “Come to Jesus Moment”

And I mean tearfully because they have governed like the left and Beck is right!

32 posted on 02/21/2010 9:47:34 PM PST by factmart
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To: GeronL
Paul Ryan voted for the first stimulus. He needs a Jesus moment too!

That being said: PALIN/RYAN 2012

33 posted on 02/21/2010 9:52:25 PM PST by factmart
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To: Brugmansian

The truth is often demoralizing to true believers.

And party-line Republicans should be demoralized. Because the truth is, they’re just “democrat-lite.”

In the rape of our Constitution, the Republicans are the party that say “But we’re going to put it in only half way...”


34 posted on 02/21/2010 9:52:27 PM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave
And party-line Republicans should be demoralized. Because the truth is, they’re just “democrat-lite.”

I am not and no Republican I've worked with is "democrat-lite". Beck is slandering us.

35 posted on 02/21/2010 9:57:48 PM PST by Brugmansian
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To: Brugmansian

I’m sorry, did I miss something? Was it not the REPUBLICAN Congress, led by Republicans in the majority, by a Republican President, who suspended the rules in Congress so they could hold open the vote on Medicare Part D and ram it down our throats?

Socialized medicine is the Democrats’ favored agenda item, and has been since the 1930’s. And the Republicans gave us socialized prescription medications. That’s “Democrat-lite.”


36 posted on 02/21/2010 10:02:07 PM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave
I’m sorry, did I miss something?

End of discussion.

37 posted on 02/21/2010 10:10:11 PM PST by Brugmansian
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To: Brugmansian

“The Pubs need the TP’s a lot worse than the TP’s need the Pubs. NOT

Tea Party accomplishes nothing if it can’t use the Republican party as a proxy just as the New Left used the Democratic party.”

Absolutely true. The LAST thing we need is to split the party. Remember Ross Perot gave us Clinton. We need to UNITE the party around the conservative message.


38 posted on 02/21/2010 11:26:16 PM PST by dixjea
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To: Brugmansian

The difference in spending is only a matter of degree. Bennett’s point, that there are individual critics within the GOP, needs to be challenged. There will always be individual GOP politicians who don’t like the way the elites are running the party, but that bears no relevance to the fact that the elites who run the GOP are frighteningly similar to those who run the Democrat party. The fact that major players in the GOP are unable to influence the socialist drift of the GOP is proof that the GOP cannot be reformed. Sure, they will make the appropriate noises, then they will back anyone except a real conservative. I’m through with the GOP’s cynical co-opting of conservatism. The party has absolutely nothing to offer.


39 posted on 02/21/2010 11:27:59 PM PST by rockhardo
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To: rockhardo
The difference in spending is only a matter of degree.

Yeah. "Only". The Democrat's "stimulus bill" alone was "only" twice what entire GOP deficits were. $1.9 trillion is "only' 3 or 4 times what any GOP deficit was. Beer and vodka are alcoholic. It is "only" a matter of degree between having a couple beers every night and drinking a fifth of vodka every night.

40 posted on 02/21/2010 11:33:26 PM PST by Brugmansian
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