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Mark Levin: I have no idea what philosophy Glenn Beck is promoting. And neither does he
Mark Levin Fan ^ | February 21, 2010 | Mark R. Levin

Posted on 02/21/2010 1:14:06 PM PST by Sergeant Tim

I was invited to be the opening speaker at Saturday's CPAC session. I had accepted but then, to my amazement, I learned that the John Birch Society would be one of many co-sponsors. This takes the big-tent idea many steps too far for me. So, I withdrew. Apparently, others were not so moved. That's fine. But it wasn't for me. Bill Buckley and Barry Goldwater, among others, chased the Birchers from the movement decades ago. And they're not a part of the movement. So, to give them a booth at CPAC was boneheaded.

I want to commend Bill Bennett for his wise piece this morning on the Corner. I agree with him.

I have no idea what philosophy Glenn Beck is promoting. And neither does he. It's incoherent. One day it's populist, the next it's libertarian bordering on anarchy, next it's conservative but not really, etc. And to what end? I believe he has announced that he is no longer going to endorse candidates because our problems are bigger than politics. Well, of course, our problems are not easily dissected into categories, but to reject politics is to reject the manner in which we try to organize ourselves. This is as old as Plato and Aristotle. Why would conservatives choose to surrender the political battlefield to our adversaries -- who are trashing this society -- when we must retake it in order to preserve our society? Philosophy, politics, culture, family, etc., are all of one. Edmund Burke, among others, wrote about it extensively, and far better that I possibly can. But all elements of the civil society require our defense. Besides, why preach such a strategy when conservatism is on the rise and the GOP is acting more responsibly?

Moreover, when he does discuss politics, which, ironically, is often, how can he claim today that there is no difference between the two parties when, but for the Republicans in Congress, government-run health care, cap-and-trade, card check, and a long list of other disastrous policies would already be law? The GOP is becoming more conservative thanks to the grass-roots movement and a political uprising across the country, which has even reached into New Jersey and Massachusetts. Why keep pretending otherwise? My only conclusion is that he is promoting a third party or some third way, which is counter-productive to defeating Obama and the Democrat Congress. These are perilous times and this kind of an approach will keep the statists in power for decades.

And what of his flirtations with Ron Paul's lunacy respecting America's supposed provocations with her enemies, including al-Qaeda? Why should such a fatal defect in thinking be ignored? Do we conservatives agree with this?

Finally, Beck is fond of congratulating himself for being the only or the first host to criticize George Bush's spending. This is demonstrably false. I not only attacked his spending, but the creation of the Homeland Security Department, the prescription drug add-on for Medicare, his "moderate" tax cuts, as well as his nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court, "comprehensive immigration reform," and so forth. And I was not alone -- Rush and Sean did the same, for example. And as someone who fought liberal Republicans in the trenches when campaigning for Reagan in 1976 and 1980, I don't need lectures from Beck, who was nowhere to be found, about big-spending Republicans. But this is not about me, or Beck, or Beck's past drunkenness (which he endlessly wears as some kind of badge of honor). It is about preserving our society for our children and grandchildren. Beck spent precious little time aiming fire at Obama-Pelosi-Reid in his speech, and it is they who are destroying our country.

On as a positive note, I am personally happy to see that Beck has cleaned up his public act -- as best I can tell, no more boiling fake frogs on TV or pretending to pour gasoline on someone -- and the rest of it. But I do think his speech, which contained nuggets of truth heard before and read elsewhere, including on Rush's show and in my book and many other books, may have distracted from some of the more compelling and coherent speeches at the event, including Marco Rubio's superb speech. I fear the media will see to this. I hope not.


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To: reaganaut

Here are some links (warning it is wild)

I’ll check it out some other time - but thanks. I’m still trying to absorb what you wrote in the post. That’s wild enough. Dead waiting to be Mormons? So someone marries this dead person and that makes this dead person a Mormon?

Just WOW! Now can this person (live) that married the dead - can this person marry again to a live person? Is the live person entitled to any inheritance this dead person left? Is that live person - the mother/father of this dead person’s children? Marrying the dead - how satanic is that!


861 posted on 02/21/2010 9:10:37 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: svcw

So you have never listened to Limbaugh, who incase you didn’t know has been on the radio for more than 20 years.

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I been listening to Rush on WABC the flagship station since 1988 until 2008 and now on WJR.


862 posted on 02/21/2010 9:11:22 PM PST by restornu
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To: onyx

Though I am not a fan of Beck, I have his TV program on also

Your idea of the parties side by side should be done.

Though Mac has his faults, Bech saying and heard him say this
That McCain would have been worse for the country than Obama.

Don’t think Marxists and outright socialists would be at the very top of leadership along with the left wing czars.

Mac wouldn’t have waited several months to send the extra troops that were requested my Commanding Gen.
Palin as a VP outshines Binden


863 posted on 02/21/2010 9:14:11 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: reaganaut

You seem to venting every where you go I wonder why?


864 posted on 02/21/2010 9:15:08 PM PST by restornu
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To: spodefly

Sorry I don’t buy into your brand of Upper West Side elitism, which is what half the posts on this thread are starting to sound like now. Just like some snotty ivy league princess calling Palin a hick because of her no name college, so many on this thread want to equate Beck and his education with not being worthy of “The Great One”.

I happen to value Levin, Bennett, and Beck, for different reasons. I don’t believe Beck said or did anything that should have Levin and Bennett acting out the way they are, nor justifying the snooty, looking down your nose superiority as is being shown on this thread.

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That is a good observation amazing how the educated stick together but now and then nice to the heartland because they need their votes!


865 posted on 02/21/2010 9:20:08 PM PST by restornu
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To: presently no screen name

PNSN, I’m commenting here because it’s the most recent.

How the hell has it come to this? PLEASE! It’s ridiculous, and the only thing it’s good for is troll food! I mean DAYUM!


866 posted on 02/21/2010 9:20:55 PM PST by ProudGulfWarVet65 (The question is, it seems to me, is who the most immediate threat is. Sad, huh?)
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To: writer33

Good for you. We are having some screwy weather; but when doesn’t Texas? LOL


867 posted on 02/21/2010 9:21:26 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Sergeant Tim
Beck spent precious little time aiming fire at Obama-Pelosi-Reid in his speech, and it is they who are destroying our country.

Levin must not watch Beck's show since Beck has been going off on that triumverate almost daily for the past year. CPAC was a perfect time to point out the problems with the Republican Party, which are many. No, they aren't as bad as the Dems. But, as Beck stated, saying "We don't suck as much as they do" isn't good enough anymore. The GOP has no choice but to be the party of limited government, strong defense, and free markets (or capitalism). If they aren't 100% in these areas, this country will continue its slide. I have not yet seen enough from the GOP to make me think that they truly "get it". Being unified when you're the minority party is easy; if they get back Congress, we'll see how much they've truly changed their ways.

868 posted on 02/21/2010 9:22:05 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (Alinsky's values aren't American values.)
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To: ProudGulfWarVet65; All

Good post!

There’s room for all voices. Particularly ours! We either believe in the First Amendment or we don’t.

It’s not like Levin is suggesting a boycott of Beck’s sponsors. Relax, everyone.

I love Rush best of all (who doesn’t?) and I really like Mark Levin!


869 posted on 02/21/2010 9:28:25 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: Major Matt Mason
levin’s strategy is to change the gop from within

IF beck believes the gop needs to be changed, he should say so - standing outside and throwing stones will not fix the gop - what is beck’s strategy?

and beck DOES say the republicans are just as bad as the democrats

870 posted on 02/21/2010 9:29:30 PM PST by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: reaganaut

Gosh so you hate the Mormons

I have listen to all of the talk show host for years I have even posted threads for Hannity, and Rush and have keep their ping list so stop with the innuendos!

Really what’s with all of you antis who been sniping at me directly or indirectly for some reason LDS are not allowed the freedoms of the constitution!

Don’t see me initiating these snips every time I am on the News thread a group of you try to find a way to point out oh there a boogieman Mormons here.

Posters be afraid be very very afriad!


871 posted on 02/21/2010 9:35:56 PM PST by restornu
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To: sloop

‘questioning with boldness’ is wonderful to the becktardz, unless you question beck

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And for some of them it goes over into other areas as well, sadly.


872 posted on 02/21/2010 9:36:28 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: onyx

Thank you. And indeed (to address this straw-man BS argument here and now) I haven’t heard ANYONE right of the line suggest shutting down and silencing Glenn Beck. That’s all on the left. I choose not to listen to the guy, and if my perception of him is correct, he’s liable to shoot himself in the foot bigtime sooner or later. We’ll see.

Bringing his faith into it is counter-productive to say the least, IMHO.


873 posted on 02/21/2010 9:37:22 PM PST by ProudGulfWarVet65 (The question is, it seems to me, is who the most immediate threat is. Sad, huh?)
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To: Raider Sam

That wasn’t taming my argument.

People (some even on here) worship him (he can do no wrong),

He is a clown

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He is “too big for his britches” meaning he is an egomaniac who thinks his **** don’t stink. Beck needs a reality check otherwise he is going to start thinking he is a god already.


874 posted on 02/21/2010 9:38:44 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: All

To all the Beckers:

Beck stealing? Nah, hes self-educated. He invents everything. It just comes to him after all his years of drinking.

Where to begin? Have you listened to Levin go off on Cass Sunstein? He has been hammering him for years. Levin has tangled with him forever. I don’t recall the exact date but Beck lifted Levin’s entire attack on Sunstein from Levin, including from his chapter on the Constitution. Sunstein has written tons of articles and several books Amazing how Beck dug put exactly the same paragraph Levin cites. Which brings me to the 2nd Bill of Rights. When did Beck first uncover that? Levin has been playing that FDR audio for years. Again it’s in his book. You Beckers (no pun intended) won’t be convinced though. I could go on and on but it won’t matter to the Beckers.

Beck has stolen blatantly from bloggers, including Breitbart, until Breitbart protested. Beck doesn’t create those videos. He steals them. Where did he get the Van Jones videos from? Anita Dunn? This is all the work others. They’re on the Internet. Beck does no independent investigations. He steals.

Beck’s book Commom Sense is a direct rip off of Thomas Paine. Most of the book is Thomas Paine’s Common Sense. His Christmas Sweater book is a direct rip off of a book series of the same kind.

Want more?


875 posted on 02/21/2010 9:39:08 PM PST by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

I don’t watch him. I have that right. DH doesn’t watch him either. We do listen to Rush and Levin but I don’t follow anyone blindly, Levin included.


876 posted on 02/21/2010 9:39:57 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Sergeant Tim

He stole from Rush to until he pointed it out.


877 posted on 02/21/2010 9:40:36 PM PST by Brimack34
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To: ProudGulfWarVet65

As a writer and blogger, it would annoy me to no end if someone ‘borrowed’ my stuff and forgot to mention where he borrowed it from. Is that not somewhat understandable?

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As a writer, it would pi$$ me off, not just annoy me.


878 posted on 02/21/2010 9:41:06 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Sergeant Tim

Well, now we know who one of the “Back-Benchers” is.


879 posted on 02/21/2010 9:43:23 PM PST by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Carbon Dioxide is plant food, not pollution.)
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To: restornu

Yes. I’m not Mormon and have no particular interest in becoming one, but this is going low. I’m a Christian, period-what denomination I am is none of anyone’s damn business unless I choose to share it. As it happens, I am of NO denomination. NONE-not Baptist, Catholic, Methodist, whatever; I don’t care for ‘organized’ religion. But that’s just me. Feel free to navigate your religious freedoms...as long as you still can.


880 posted on 02/21/2010 9:43:59 PM PST by ProudGulfWarVet65 (The question is, it seems to me, is who the most immediate threat is. Sad, huh?)
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