Posted on 02/16/2010 10:19:38 AM PST by FredJake
Date rape has been in our lexicon for a few decades now, fact is a majority of people have become quite familiar with the lines that separate consensual and non consensual sex. However, our present attitude about rape was not always the same as it is today. There has always been warnings to girls that they should not allow themselves to be in certain situations that could lead to unwanted advances from boys. There has been many a woman who has claimed they were raped while the only defense the man had was the girl allowed things to progress past a point of no return for him.
I remember when I was but 12 years old, and I would accompany my older sister and her friend to the beach. My sisters always wore a one piece, but her friend would always wear this practically see-through white bikini just to lie down on a towel to sunbath. I must admit that I paid close attention to her as she laid there on her towel. After all, I was but six removed from being a full fledged teenager, and my hormones were already beginning to cause problems in my life. It was the late “60”s and I was well aware of the sentiment that we should love the one we were with if we could not be with the one we loved. Then again, I also remember the same girl telling my sister that a boy she was making out with on the beach raped her one day.
My sister convinced her to report it to the police and after some investigation they decided that there was no way they would be able to get a conviction because of the way the girl carried on with the boy on the beach. Now, today the results of the investigation would be much different as we now have the understanding that “no” means “no”, regardless of when during the encounter a girl uses that word. It is true though, that regardless of which side of the argument you agree with, someone will inevitably have a strongly felt conviction of why you are wrong. Personally I believe that everyone involved needs to take responsibility for how they conduct themselves. I also believe that such an accusation or charge can always be avoided if everyone obeyed God's precepts that only couples who are married should be having sex. So in my opinion, obeying this simple command could......
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Some women are raped or molested at work...
Oh gee she should not have been there...
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Some women are raped or molested in their own homes..
Oh gee she should not have been there...
You obviously did not read the article or you would not have made such a lame statement like that.
Sounds a little like the “she was asking for it” defense to me.
Yes, a drunk man walking down an alley with hundred dollar bills stuck out of his pockets was “asking” to get mugged. But that does not make his mugger innocent.
Same here; yes, women should know better than put themselves in some situations. But that does not make a person who takes her without her consent less a rapist.
I know a girl who was raped at work. She was known to “disappear into the supply room” from time to time with certain males...one of the times, she was raped in that very same room. Terrible situation.
Excellent article and a scary glimpse of things to come. Britain is a couple of decades ahead of us. Friends from Germany say full frontal nudity in public advertisements are not unusual.
A friend of mine was on a jury. The perp went to see an old flame while his wife was in labor. One thing led to another and she asked him to put on a condom. He wouldn’t and she said, “Then stop.” He didn’t. She pressed charges for rape. Where do you stand so far - convict or acquit?
11/12 jurors called for immediate acquittal and wanted to go home. My friend, stubborn to his anachronistic beliefs - Christian & chivalrous - refused to budge. He explained that “no” means “no” whenever. He logically walked them back to morality and eventually they convicted 12/12.
When the jury’s decision was read the court collapsed in bedlam. The handsome, well dressed perp startled, then bent his head down in shock. His wife screamed and wailed that he was innocent. The judge cleared the courtroom and the prosecutor asked the jury to stay a moment.
They couldn’t put this into the record, but this was the third time for the same guy under very similar standards.
America is not Europe or anywhere else and we don’t have to be. We must simply stand up for our Natural Rights and God’s Morality. Our voices matter and our courage makes a difference.
You consistently write the goofiest posts. Or is it like a speech impediment you experience through your hands?
Is this from Whoopi Goldberg?
Sorry, the “She Was Asking For It” defense is lame.
Very common also is the woman who never actually said no, feels guilty a few days later,,,and the womens groups tell them at college that their bad feelings mean it was against their will. The police get called. Date rape is about the same as autism spectrum,,, a wide wide range of things get wrongly rounded up into that label.
“...would you agree with me that the changing English attitude towards a woman being raped is a result of the increasing Muslim population that considers any woman who has been raped to be guilty of leading the man on?”
This attitude is such a throwback I have a very hard time getting my head around it. In this way of thinking ALL rape is the women's fault?
I agree with the author’s supposition that abstaining from extra-marital sex would eliminate [virtually] ALL ‘date-rape;’ I also agree that “’no’ means ‘no’.” (But the opposite is also true, yes means yes, ok means ok, and so forth.)
My point is this, if some two people start having consenting sex and then one suddenly says ‘no’ then that does NOT make it non-consensual... at that point, whether or not the other stops is irrelevant to whether the act was consensual because IT WAS.
Just like a credit card means agreeing to an “I will pay at such and such date” buying things and then deciding that you don’t want them does NOT absolve you from having to pay for them. (Though there are stores and such with return policies that does not refute my argument.)
And as the photo at the top of the story exemplifies,,there is a lot of dishonesty in that situation. Thats an actress that was told,,,ok,, “act distraught”. Talk to any sex crimes detective,,,a female one, and ask her to tell you a few stories.
Some women even accuse date rape because the guy doesn’t call them again.
The writer is correct. Following Gods rules makes a lotta practical sense for a young man these days.
CONVICT
I .. Many years ago was in a situation similar to this.
A cab driver picked me up from a local tavern.
The guy's wife was with him.
Apparently, they had been arguing because she climb over the front seat and started .. playing around.
Real long story short .. The guy dropped us off at their house and the lady and I wound up in bed!
Well, at about midway through the act, the lady started to cry and then told me that she couldn't go through with it.
I told her that I understood, got up, got dressed and .. called another cab! LOL
My stance is: It is a woman's Right to say NO and she does Not need a reason .. EVER to say it!
I agree with your conclusion.
Thanks for sharing. Are you a screenwriter for Porn films?
A woman can move it around.
I get your story. But I think there should be degrees of rape, just like there are for murder.
The guy you site is guilt of one kind of rape, but you can’t say it’s exactly the same as some guy hiding in a parking lot and jumping some woman.
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