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Former prosecutor: No reason to believe accused Ala. shooter purposely killed her brother
Newser ^ | 02/16/10

Posted on 02/16/2010 8:51:46 AM PST by freespirited

A former Massachusetts prosecutor says there was no reason to believe it was anything but an accident when a professor now accused of killing three colleagues in Alabama shot her brother to death two decades ago.

Former assistant district attorney John Kivlan said Tuesday that a joint investigation by state and local police as well as the medical examiner's office all concluded Seth Bishop's 1986 death was an accident.

His sister, Amy, is accused of killing three colleagues at the University of Alabama-Huntsville on Friday and injuring three others.

Kivlan is now retired from the Norfolk District Attorney's office. He said he was not aware of reports that Amy Bishop went to a nearby auto body shop after the Massachusetts shooting and demanded a car. He said that may or may not have changed his assessment of the case.


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He said he was not aware of reports that Amy Bishop went to a nearby auto body shop after the Massachusetts shooting and demanded a car. He said that may or may not have changed his assessment of the case.

Ya think??

1 posted on 02/16/2010 8:51:46 AM PST by freespirited
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To: freespirited
The key to this mystery is DemonRat congersman William Delahunt.

He was the DA who dropped all charges and ruled it an accident.


2 posted on 02/16/2010 8:53:53 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: freespirited

What a load of self-serving, steaming crap!


3 posted on 02/16/2010 8:54:15 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Yeah. Loads of people accidentally discharge a shotgun THREE TIMES!


4 posted on 02/16/2010 8:54:53 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 390 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: freespirited

Frankly, I think there is still a role for good, old-fashioned frontier justice to play in the American “justice” system. A culture can “civilize” itself to extinction.


5 posted on 02/16/2010 8:56:42 AM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: freespirited
One shot can be an accident. Three shots are no accident.
6 posted on 02/16/2010 8:57:39 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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Yeah. Loads of people accidentally discharge a shotgun THREE TIMES!

Particularly a PUMP shotgun...

7 posted on 02/16/2010 8:58:05 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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Yeah. Loads of people accidentally discharge a shotgun THREE TIMES!

Exactly! The story goes she was trying to unload it in her room (after practicing loading it - ya, right) when it went off. At that point she runs downstairs to get help with unloading it when it "accidentally" went off again right at her brother's chest. At that point she went running outside when it went off a third time. (Amazing how pump shotguns can do this. I want one.)

We can only assume that she went running to the car dealer, shotgun still in hand, still looking for help with unloading it. I can't wait to hear what Delahunt has to say about this.

8 posted on 02/16/2010 8:59:03 AM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Bring out yer dead! Bring out your dead!" - Cries of a Navy Corpseman)
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To: freespirited
There's a quote out there from the old police chief saying the DA investigated it and declined to charge. Delahunt's people are saying that the police investigated and advised him that there was criminality.

I think the truth will leak out. Maybe Fuhrman could go up to Braintree and get a start on his next book :-)

9 posted on 02/16/2010 8:59:18 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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Former assistant district attorney John Kivlan said Tuesday that a joint investigation by state and local police as well as the medical examiner's office all concluded Seth Bishop's 1986 death was an accident.

1.) A real shame Seth isn't around to provide some input.

2.) How would anyone be able to say it was an 'accident' when the files have been cleaned and sanitized?

They're gonna find that missing report in the same place as 0bama's birth certificate.
10 posted on 02/16/2010 8:59:30 AM PST by mkjessup
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If you “accidently” discharge a firearm, do you run downstairs holding the weapon where, oops, you “accidently” discharge it again into your brother’s chest, and oops, accidently discharge it into the ceiling, and then run outside - STILL HOLDING ON TO THE WEAPON - and point it in a threatening matter at two other people?

Sure.

Most people unfamilar with firearms, if they accidently discharged a weapon, would but the damned thing down and leave it alone while they sought help.


11 posted on 02/16/2010 9:01:13 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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To: freespirited

Funny how the guy who was held at gun point recalls having law enforcement interview him about the incident.


12 posted on 02/16/2010 9:01:30 AM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: RobinOfKingston

Exactly. Heck, in the old days, they often didn’t even bother with trials. The posse came after you and if they wished, they could arrange that you were killed in self-defense or died trying to escape. Who else would know? It helped to curb crime and today it would save taxpayers money.


13 posted on 02/16/2010 9:01:42 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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Ng told the AP the shooting stopped almost as soon as it started. Ng said the gun seemed to jam and he and others rushed Bishop out of the room and then barricaded the door shut with a table.

This whole thing bugs me. I realize that things happen quickly, but 5 people can't get a jammed gun away from a woman? Pushing her out WITH THE GUN is cowardice. It gives her time to unjam the gun and go after them or other innocents! And methodolically shooting 6 people in the head before the gun jams??? Had the gun not jammed, it seems like none of the 11 would have fought back.

14 posted on 02/16/2010 9:02:28 AM PST by Onelifetogive (Flame away...)
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They're gonna find that missing report in the same place as 0bama's birth certificate.

In Sandy Berger's pants?

15 posted on 02/16/2010 9:02:59 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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If I’m not mistaken I think you have to load a shotgun more than once to shoot at someone THREE TIMES.

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Amy Bishop Seth M. Bishop, in the abdomen with a 12-gauge shotgun in December 1986.

The report said Bishop was asking her mother, Judith, how to properly unload the gun when it when off and a shot struck Seth.

Braintree Police Chief Paul Frazier is now offering a different account of the shooting to The Globe: “Bishop had shot her brother during an argument and was being booked by police when the police chief at the time ordered the booking process stopped and Bishop released to her mother,” the paper reports on its Web site. Records from the case have been missing since 1987.

Bishop shot at her brother 3 times.

Braintree officers who remember the 1986 shooting said that former police Chief John Polio dismissed detectives from the case and ordered the department to release Amy Bishop after a telephone conversation with former district attorney William Delahunt.

Delahunt is currently a U.S. congressman from Massachusetts.

Bishop’s mother was in politics on the town Board of Personnel in 1986 at the time of the shooting.

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16 posted on 02/16/2010 9:03:31 AM PST by kcvl
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To: null and void

Yep, I would think discharging three times would be a clue.


17 posted on 02/16/2010 9:06:22 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Delahunt ... dropped all charges and ruled it an accident.

Proving once again that guns kill.

Delahunt announced today that he's going to reopen the case and prosecute the shotgun and ammunition manufacturers.

18 posted on 02/16/2010 9:06:33 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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At that point she went running outside when it went off a third time.

She is a scientist, you see. After the first shot, she developed a theory as to why it may have occured. (Something related to the trigger.) She pointed the gun at her brother and ran an experiment to test the theory. A similar effect to the one she noted upon the first engaging of the trigger mechanism was noted. She performed one final test to validate the results of the previous test. Only then was she sure why the gun had gone off...

19 posted on 02/16/2010 9:07:33 AM PST by Onelifetogive (Flame away...)
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This whole thing bugs me.

Me, too. William Delahunt placed that weapon in her hand twenty-three years ago. Without him, she would never have been in that room.

20 posted on 02/16/2010 9:10:43 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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