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Tea Party Candidate May Ensure A Harry Reid Win
Flopping Aces ^ | 02-13-10 | Curt

Posted on 02/13/2010 7:19:31 PM PST by Starman417

This is just beyond asinine. (h/t doubleplusundead)

Sun columnist Jon Ralston is reporting that the Tea Party has qualified as a third party in Nevada and will have a candidate in the Senate race to battle for the seat held by Majority Leader Harry Reid.

The party has filed a Certificate of Existence but needs to get 1 percent of the electorate to vote for its candidate in November to permanently qualify, according to the report.

Ralston reported that Jon Ashjian will be the Tea Party's U.S. Senate candidate on the November ballot. Ashjian still must declare his candidacy.

Awesome.....this goes a long way towards ensuring Harry Reid stays the Senator of that State.

Read more at floppingaces.net...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Nevada; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 111th; nevada; nv2010; party; reid; tea; teaparty; thirdparty
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To: Starman417
It is even worse than that. There are 7 Reps in the race. They are going to have to beat the snot out of each other to get past the primary. They will have shot the money wad and be bloodied before the race run against Reid even starts. ANF none of them are big winners in the charisma area.
181 posted on 02/14/2010 6:16:42 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: Starman417

Republican candidate ensures Harry Reid win - two can play at that game, see??


182 posted on 02/14/2010 6:19:42 AM PST by Puddleglum ("due to the record harvest, rationing will continue as usual")
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To: EternalVigilance
But when the poll you are citing was conducted, conservatism wasn't explained to them. They were asked an oversimplified question and picked the answer that made them feel best about themselves. Same with all the people who said they were "pro-life" when asked in too simple a form. Everyone was rejoicing at the 51% but when the poll participants are asked more specifically what they believe in, it is no 51%.

Still, as I said at the time, I think it is an encouraging trend that more people want to think of themselves as conservative or pro-life. They are somewhere on the spectrum--moving in the right direction, one would hope.

Of course if each conservative idea were presented to them with a correct explanation, then the answers might be different and more positive toward conservatism. But that doesn't happen when a polltaker just asks a question.

183 posted on 02/14/2010 6:28:04 AM PST by firebrand (Unite the clans . . . please!)
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To: firebrand

The main point stands. Conservatism is not being fully represented in this country, because the party that wears the conservative label really isn’t.


184 posted on 02/14/2010 6:33:03 AM PST by EternalVigilance (A vote for McCain is a vote for amnesty.)
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To: firebrand

One of the best current examples is that out of 31 states in which the people have had a chance to express their views on gay marriage through a vote, 31 states have rejected it.


185 posted on 02/14/2010 6:35:09 AM PST by EternalVigilance (A vote for McCain is a vote for amnesty.)
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To: Starman417
The Las Vegas Badger blog has this to say:

Ok, let's look at the facts. Considering this was broken by Jon Ralston, an extremely liberal columnist- he would make Karl Marx look like a conservative, I would not put much truth into this.

Second, they report that Jon Ashjian will be it's candidate but yet he has not yet to declare his candidacy. Huh?

A third party conservative candidate is Harry Reid's wet dream. It's the only way he could possibly win.

But who is Jon Ashjian? Google his name and you don't find anything. Same with Yahoo. So, who is this guy?

My honest opinion is that this is a set up by Reid and Ralston.

What does Ralston know about the Tea Party movement? He thinks, as a good liberal thinks, they are a bunch of nuts. And why would he get the information before other conservative writers, columnists and talk show hosts? Why hasn't Ashjian been in the public spotlight before today? Why hasn't he declared his candidacy yet? How about a press conference?

So, no, I don't think this is legitimate announcement but another desperate act of liberals, like Ralston and Reid.

The Las Vegas Sun, no surprise, is already in the tank for Reid, being their spokesperson/propaganda writer for Reid. Ralston has been a pathetic writer ever since his TV show was cancelled and his writing in the Sun has been greatly been diminished and he wants to get back in the lime light.

I don't think this play out like the liberals want. They think that anyone associated with the Tea Party movement will succeed and that people are too stupid to figure out this ruse. That's what many liberals think, conservatives are just too stupid that they won't figure out the liberal's games they play.

So, nice try Harry and Jon, but people just aren't that stupid


186 posted on 02/14/2010 6:42:07 AM PST by Brugmansian
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I wonder who Sarah will endorse and stump for? Hmmmmm....methinks a few stump speeches and appearances for the GOP candidate (that it, if the GOP candidate adhears to certain policies) would pretty much put this “tea party” candidate on the shelf.

Is he really a tea party candidate or just hijacking the name?


187 posted on 02/14/2010 6:50:43 AM PST by ak267
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To: EternalVigilance
I didn't realize that was your main point. I think conservative people running for office necessarily choose a point somewhere between their true view and what they think will get them elected, whatever that happens to be in the state they are being elected from. They then can sometimes go even more "native" when they are elected. Sharp, clear decisions have to be made at every turning point as to how much is worth it. In other words, is it better to compromise a bit in order to stay in office and get most of your agenda accomplished, rather than let the leftist win? When the lures of office begin to take over, it is time to reassess one's integrity.

This may all seem obvious. It is important for our officials elected as conservatives do a kind of teaching role as much as it can be tolerated. Changing hearts and minds, although a well-worn cliche, is still the seed of political change, at least until the political scene itself changes and sweeps the less incisive thinkers along with it.

188 posted on 02/14/2010 6:54:33 AM PST by firebrand (Unite the clans . . . please!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Good point. Good fact to keep in mind too, for debating purposes.


189 posted on 02/14/2010 6:57:06 AM PST by firebrand (Unite the clans . . . please!)
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To: firebrand
I didn't realize that was your main point.

From my post #98, the one to which you originally responded:

If one thinks it all the way through, you can only reach one conclusion: It’s because the party that claims to represent conservatism really doesn’t.

190 posted on 02/14/2010 6:58:56 AM PST by EternalVigilance (A vote for McCain is a vote for amnesty.)
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To: firebrand

I’m betting results would be similar on a number of other key conservative issues.


191 posted on 02/14/2010 6:59:52 AM PST by EternalVigilance (A vote for McCain is a vote for amnesty.)
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To: Brugmansian

Thanks for posting. It’s going to be a long election season trying to keep up with the D’s shenanigans.


192 posted on 02/14/2010 7:20:38 AM PST by CajunConservative (Shut Up Mary!)
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To: ansel12

I didn’t expect you to see my point. Conversation over. Again. See ya next time. :<


193 posted on 02/14/2010 10:08:26 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: RedMDer

“Let’s not make this mistake again” You are absolutely right, one pie chart reading, big eared dumbass is enough. It ensured the Clinton Presidency twice and Dirty Harry is far, far worse.


194 posted on 02/14/2010 10:08:27 AM PST by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: Puddleglum
Republican candidate ensures Harry Reid win - two can play at that game, see??

What game is that? Do the 49 "third parties" often win Senate races or do they merely siphon off a few votes that can effect the outcome between the Republican and Democrat candidates?

"Libertarian Party candidates may have cost Sens. Jim Talent and Conrad Burns their seats, tipping the Senate to Democratic control. In Montana, the Libertarian candidate got more than 10,000 votes, or 3 percent, while Democrat Jon Tester edged Burns by fewer than 3,000 votes. In Missouri, Claire McCaskill defeated Talent by 41,000 votes, a bit less than the 47,000 Libertarian votes.

This isn't the first time Republicans have had to worry about losing votes to Libertarian Party candidates. Sens. Harry Reid, Maria Cantwell, and Tim Johnson all won races in which Libertarian candidates got more votes than their winning margin."

195 posted on 02/14/2010 12:15:48 PM PST by ansel12 (Mitt Romney and the Romney family traditionally, is at war with conservatism and traditional America)
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To: Starman417
Okay, there's a Tea Party candidate and a Republican Party candidate splitting the the conservative vote against a Democratic Party candidate.

If the Democratic Party candidate wins, why is it automatically the Tea Party candidate's fault for not dropping out, and not the Republican's?

196 posted on 02/14/2010 12:23:24 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; onyx; Swanks; Russ; SmokingJoe; WHBates; ...

Hopefully they fall short of their 1% goal. If this story is even accurate. Rolston appears to be a moron, if he’s the only source for this...

It smells like that “No New Taxes” guy who ran in Minnesota that was actually a democrat looking to steal votes from GOPer John Kline. But just as easily it could be well meaning morons.


197 posted on 02/14/2010 5:02:52 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: Impy; AmishDude

Ralston is a lazy and dishonest reporter, and I hate to call him a reporter, because he’s actually nothing more than a hack writer. He wrote a hit piece on Republican candidate Sue Lowden, wherein he claimed she was not pro-life when in fact, she is a pro-life Roman Catholic, who happened to be leading Reid by the largest margin in the polling data at that time.

I think we should monitor the race and post new information on this thread as we find it.


198 posted on 02/14/2010 5:13:24 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: ansel12

oh boy - if you really brainstorm, you can think of how the Pubbies can circumvent a threat from conservative candidates. Hint: boiling the pot already got ride of Arlen Specter — are a member of the crowd that wishes the Pubbies still had him?


199 posted on 02/14/2010 5:38:39 PM PST by Puddleglum ("due to the record harvest, rationing will continue as usual")
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To: Puddleglum

Sorry, I couldn’t make out that post.


200 posted on 02/14/2010 5:43:50 PM PST by ansel12 (Mitt Romney and the Romney family traditionally, is at war with conservatism and traditional America)
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