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Bus Tunnel Victim Says She Begged Police For Help Before Beating
KIRO TV ^ | February 11, 2010

Posted on 02/11/2010 10:54:38 AM PST by anonsquared

The 15-year-old victim of a beating that took place at the Westlake transit tunnel last month said she pleaded with Seattle police officers to help her get away from a group of people who eventually attacked and robbed her, court documents said.

As surveillance video from the incident revealed that transit security officers stood by while the girl was beaten, more details about what led up to the attack were found in court papers by KIRO 7 Eyewitness News reporter Jeff Dubois Thursday morning.

In the court documents, the victim said Seattle police officers did not help her when she pleaded with them to help her get away from her group of attackers prior to the beating, but police did not help her.

WATCH IT: Victim Says She Asked Police For Help

That same group of people, including a 15-year-old girl seen attacking the victim on surveillance video, later followed the girl into the tunnel where the attack took place, police said.

The mother of the 15-year-old girl accused of robbery and assault in the case defended her daughter, saying the two teens have a history of aggressiveness toward each other, and that her daughter is a good girl who made a bad decision.

WATCH IT: One Suspect's Mom: 'I Can't Feel Sorry For My Daughter'

(Excerpt) Read more at kirotv.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: government; seattle; useless; workers
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To: Kimberly GG
No, the can only “observe and report” They wanted to save money. Next time upgrade to powers to arrest but after the BART cop shot the perp dead you wonder.
21 posted on 02/11/2010 11:07:56 AM PST by Domangart (editor and publisher)
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To: anonsquared
A disgusting display of weakness, those “men” need to be pilloried and humiliated for such total and complete cowardice.

Since they lacked the testicular fortitude necessary for direct action to protect the teen, the absolute least thing they should have done was physically place themselves between her and her attacker instead of standing by and watching like enthralled herd animals.

Real men are rapidly becoming extinct.

22 posted on 02/11/2010 11:08:25 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: OldDeckHand
-- ... was under the impression that they were mall security guards who didn't help her. But, this story is saying that they were actually Seattle PD officers. --

From what I've read, the girl interacted with both, Seattle PD and the Rent-a-Watcher. Only the Rent-a-Watchers are on tape at the tunnel where the beating and robbery took place. The police refused to accompany her to that location before the beating, and she interacted with Seattle PD again after the beating.

She can sue all she wants, but she'll lose. In order to find negligence, there must first be a duty - and there is none.

23 posted on 02/11/2010 11:08:37 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Actually, police present at the scene, or willfully negligent, can be held liable. Well, their employers (the city, taxpayers) will, anyway.

The USSC rightly protected the police in cases where the police simply weren’t there, or where there were “procedural” mistakes (dispatch, addresses, etc.).

Unfortunately, the decision was vague enough to include simple negligence, with which I disagree.


24 posted on 02/11/2010 11:08:43 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: anonsquared

Where to start...

Where is the Dad? Absentee no doubt.

What good are guards that don’t guard.

Arm the guards and give them authority to use their arms as necessary. Paper tigers are worthless.

Not that girls can’t be strong, but were there NO GUYS in the entire place that could intervene? I take that back. If you do intervene in a fight between 2 private parties in Seattle, you will probably be sued into bankruptcy and end up booked for assault yourself.

Just another minor event seen from a front row seat by people watching the Death of Western Civilization in real time. We are truly well and doomed.


25 posted on 02/11/2010 11:09:09 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 48... 47... 46...)
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To: anonsquared

To protect and serve the donuts.


26 posted on 02/11/2010 11:09:11 AM PST by cajuncow
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To: OldDeckHand

These security guards are from Transit working for a private firm. They are under orders to observe and report only and not to intervene. Liberal insanity!


27 posted on 02/11/2010 11:09:14 AM PST by nd2bfree
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To: anonsquared

Then of course there was this jail guard here in Seattle that beat up a 15yo girl in her cell ... there was video on it ... still don’t know the court outcome of it all ...


28 posted on 02/11/2010 11:09:14 AM PST by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: OldDeckHand
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/415247_tunnel10.html
29 posted on 02/11/2010 11:09:49 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: HerrBlucher

i do


30 posted on 02/11/2010 11:09:59 AM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Where is the Dad? This is how perps get to be perps. No dad, no discipline, frustrated or lax mother.


31 posted on 02/11/2010 11:10:09 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 48... 47... 46...)
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To: dfwgator

“The victim should own Seattle after she’s done.”

I am not too sure of that. Incredibly, some states require that there be a ‘special relationship” between the victim and the ‘officer’. That is, something the ‘officer’ did or said that makes the victim think that the ‘officer’ will help or protect her.

Ignoring an assault right in front of the guard might not support civil liability.


32 posted on 02/11/2010 11:10:50 AM PST by John Galt's cousin (Principled Conservatism in 2010 and 2012 * * * * * * * * * * Repeal the 17th Amendment!)
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To: Mark was here
Amish youth?

More like future Obama voters. Or current, in the case of the security personnel.

33 posted on 02/11/2010 11:12:05 AM PST by Major Matt Mason (Alinsky's values aren't American values.)
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To: SJSAMPLE
-- Actually, police present at the scene, or willfully negligent, can be held liable. Well, their employers (the city, taxpayers) will, anyway. --

I haven't studied the "failure to act" cases. Usually liability attaches on over-acting, not under-acting. In the under-acting cases (non-response to 911 call; Columbine; etc.), the courts have uniformly held that the police have no duty to protect. I'd like to read a case that found a duty, and expressed what that was/is.

34 posted on 02/11/2010 11:13:21 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: anonsquared
Do we need any more proof that government workers are useless?

Well...no...but this isn't it anyway. They are (should be were) employees of a private security firm. Not Gubmint employees.

35 posted on 02/11/2010 11:15:07 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: Cboldt

Apparently, the girl was being bullied in the store and the police threw her out into their hands, into an unprotected area. They did intervene, and they made it worse. I think this would be a reasonable basis to hold them liable legally, under a negligence or recklessness standard.


36 posted on 02/11/2010 11:15:17 AM PST by Piranha (Obama won like Bernie Madoff attracted investors: by lying about his values, policy and plans.)
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To: Little Ray
"The police officers were in Macy’s or a mall. They ejected th kids and the confrontation was renewed in the transit tunnels. The guards on the camera were the the security guards, not the police."

Ah, that makes sense. She could have two causes for separate action.

37 posted on 02/11/2010 11:15:19 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Cboldt

Again, the police did act, according to the posts above. The girl was being harassed in the store and the police made her leave along with the rest of them, into an area without any police. She pleaded with them not to do this, but they did it anyway.


38 posted on 02/11/2010 11:16:23 AM PST by Piranha (Obama won like Bernie Madoff attracted investors: by lying about his values, policy and plans.)
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To: Piranha
"They did intervene, and they made it worse. I think this would be a reasonable basis to hold them liable legally, under a negligence or recklessness standard."

I think this is right. "Failure to act" is a fluid area of law, while most such claims don't prevail, there are some exceptions. And, as you point out, they did act, just not appropriately. My guess is the city would settle rather than taking their chances with a jury.

39 posted on 02/11/2010 11:17:59 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Kimberly GG

My husband says that the “security” they are hired to supply is for observation purposes ONLY. They are to REPORT and OBSERVE. Ever hear of an employee of 7/11 who get fired after trying to stop a robbery. They are supposed to NOT fight, hand over the money, then REPORT the robbery. Some people are more terrified of losing their jobs than putting themselves in harms way to assist someone in danger.

Myself, I’d toss the job, and help. I couldn’t live with myself otherwise....


40 posted on 02/11/2010 11:20:19 AM PST by yellowroses (a Yankee in Texas)
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