Posted on 02/10/2010 3:47:46 PM PST by SmithL
SAN FRANCISCO -- What is moral turpitude?
U.S. 9th Circuit Judge Stephen Reinhardt says society will never agree on a precise definition for the squishy legal concept that characterizes a depraved person. The court ruled Wednesday that indecent exposure, for one, does not necessarily qualify.
The appeals court ruled 2-1 in the case of Victor Ocegueda Nunez, an immigrant from Mexico who faced deportation because of a 2003 indecent exposure conviction in Northern California.
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The court ordered an immigration judge to determine whether the specific circumstances of Nunez's case qualify as moral turpitude.
(Excerpt) Read more at ktvu.com ...
Isn’t it legal to walk around naked in that city?
This is common sense. Peeing behind a bush isn’t the same qualitatively as flashing somebody, although usually treated by the same section of legal code.
Kind of like the difference between naked and nekkid.
Yeah, I’ve changed in and out of my bathing suit in my car many times, and while I use a towel to keep myself covered, sometimes “wardrobe malfunctions” can happen. (That, and of course, “there isn’t a towel big enough...” :^)
I’m just happy they didn’t happen when anybody was walking by. Especially a cop. Unless it was a really hot female cop with common sense.
Years ago, when I lived in SF, an elderly Filipino man in our parish was arrested because he decided to adjust his hernia belt in the vestibule of the bank. He honestly wasn’t doing anything intentionally obscene, but one of the tellers saw him groping in his pants and decided he was trying to flash them.
Of course, now in California, gay men can be buggering each other in the public bathrooms along the freeway and it’s their inalienable right and can’t be prohibited...
Bizarre.
My neighbor has given up calling 911 because the judge says it’s not my fault the bush doesn’t have any leaves for 5 months of the year...
The article doesn’t say what the indecent exposure consisted of. Was it peeing in the bushes or something else?
“The court ruled Wednesday that indecent exposure, for one, does not necessarily qualify.”
I would agree with that position in that people have been convicted of indecent exposure for peeing along the highway and being naked inside their house...
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Oh good grief. What about the creeps who expose their rectums when Amtrak goes by? They aren’t perverts?
Whenever a fellow named Rex
Flashed his very small organ of sex,
He always got off,
For the judges would scoff:
"De minimis non curat lex."*
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*The law does not concern itself with trifles.
In order to renew the Liqour license for the family restaurant, I had to update a criminal history for my father. I asked him if he had ever been arrested and I was very surprised to learn that he had one arrest for indecent exposure back in 1931.
I had never heard this story so I pulled it out of him, and the more he told of it, the memory stirred an old anger.
He had just returned from New York where a 15 year old had fled two years earlier to spare his family the necessity of feeding him. It was a warm fall Friday afternoon and Huntington Beach (California) was deserted. He and a friend decided that it was safe to body surf without their suit tops.
When they returned to their towels they found a Deputy Sheriff waiting to arrest them for indecent exposure.
The judge could not see them until the next Monday so they spent three days in jail and were then given a $50 fine.
My dad had tears forming at this point and asked if I knew how much money $50 was for a kid like him in 1931? He said that he was still paying when the 1932 Olympic Games came to LA and no male swimmer wore a bathing top.
Or, you could use my tagline.... ‘-)
In Oregon, indecent exposure is legal, as long as you are riding a bicycle! It is “protected speech.”
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1209995/nude_bicycle_riding_becomes_a_civil.html?cat=17
The time is long overdue to break that circus up and get some sanity out there ... it has to be the most frequently overturned Circuit Court
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