I think these words are apropos here, from the one speech that I find endlessly educational and inspiring:
"No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the House. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and, therefore, I hope it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen if, entertaining as I do opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely and without reserve. This is no time for ceremony. The questing before the House is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings..."
Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775
http://libertyonline.hypermall.com/henry-liberty.html
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The rest are reasonable at some level, and at least not overtly dishonest.
These two are not "very nice persons."
I have serious disagreements with GOP_lady on government policies (and vice versa) BUT she found my weakness. She is polite and respectful and posts her arguments about the specific issues and positions she takes.