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ISLAM MAY HAVE A POINT!
vanity | 2/1/2010 | A Navy Vet

Posted on 02/01/2010 1:06:22 AM PST by A Navy Vet

After reading some more Koran tonight, I had an epiphany.
I realized that some of the worst parts of the Koran were similar to worst parts of the Christian Bible. I now believe many parts of both were misinterpreted.

While I realize that Islam has been violent throughout its history, so has Judeism and Christianity (think Crusades).

I'm not sure I believe in the 72 virgin promise, but I am starting to get Mohammed's believe in a better after-life. I need to read more.

That said, our world has gone to shit. There can be a better place for those who believe.

Yes, I know I've been promoting the opportunity and potential of our original Founding Fathers' intent for years, but they were also persons of faith. I don't know what happened...call it a vision...call it a dream...call it what you like.

This is tough stuff for me. But when you have a "vision" of Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, where do you go?

The last prophet was Mohammed. Yes, I know of his trangressions, the same as others. But his writing are starting to make sense.


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To: az.b1bbomberfxr

The day Laz decides to lose it, no one will be safe.

“Safe from what?” will be the only question on our scared little minds.


161 posted on 02/01/2010 5:55:04 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: skr
What I understood was he took over one of the religions caravan people were practicing and added to it.

That way he started with a small following.

162 posted on 02/02/2010 12:23:25 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: A Navy Vet

Future jihadi, eh?
Elif air ab dinich.


163 posted on 02/02/2010 1:15:53 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: A Navy Vet

Stay away from S’Barro pizzarias.


164 posted on 02/02/2010 1:22:17 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: A Navy Vet

Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (Q. 2:191), to murder them and treat them harshly (Q. 9:123), slay them (Q. 9: 5), fight with them, (Q. 8: 65), even if they are Christians and Jews, humiliate them and impose on them a penalty tax (Q. 9: 29), Quran takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and tell clearly that no other religion except Islam is accepted (Q. 3: 85), It relegates those who disbelieve in Quran to hell (Q. 5: 11), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (Q. 9: 28), It orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (Q. 2: 193).
It says that the non-believers will go to hell and will drink boiling water (Q. 14: 17).
It asks the Muslims to slay or crucify or cut the hands and feet of the unbelievers, that they be expelled from the land with disgrace and that “they shall have a great punishment in world hereafter” (Q.5: 34).
“As for the disbelievers”, it says that “for them garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowls and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods” (Q. 22: 9).
Quran prohibits a Muslim to befriend a non-believer even if that non-believer is the father or the brother of that Muslim (Q. 9: 23), (Q. 3: 28).
Quran asks the Muslims to “strive against the unbelievers with great endeavor (Q. 25: 52), be stern with them because they belong to hell (Q. 66: 9).
The holy Prophet demanded his follower to “strike off the heads of the disbelievers”; then after making a “wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives” (Q. 47: 4).
As for women the book of Allah says that they are inferior to men and their husbands have the right to scourge them if they are found disobedient (Q. 4:34).
It teaches that women will go to hell if they are disobedient to their husbands (Q. 66:10).
It maintains that men have an advantage over the women (Q. 2:228).
It not only denies the women’s equal right to their inheritance (Q. 4:11-12), it also regards them as imbeciles and decrees that their witness is not admissible in the court (Q. 2:282).
This means that a woman who is raped cannot accuse her rapist unless she can produce a male witness.
Muhammad allowed the Muslims to marry up to four wives and gave them license to sleep with their slave maids and as many “captive” women as they may have (Q. 4:3).
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/002.qmt.html#002.191
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.123
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.005
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/008.qmt.html#008.065
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.029
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/003.qmt.html#003.085
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/005.qmt.html#005.011
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.028
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/02.qmt.html#02.193
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/014.qmt.html#014.017
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/005.qmt.html#005.034
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/022.qmt.html#022.009
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.023
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/003.qmt.html#003.028
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/025.qmt.html#025.052
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/066.qmt.html#066.009
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/047.qmt.html#047.004
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.034
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/066.qmt.html#066.010
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/002.qmt.html#002.228
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.011
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/002.qmt.html#002.282
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.003

Lying is permissable in Islam: http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/muslim/032.smt.html
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/049.sbt.html
Especially to facilitate murder.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/059.sbt.html#005.059.369


165 posted on 02/02/2010 1:57:26 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: A Navy Vet

What version of the Koran are you reading? Did you get it from an Islam recruiting place? Because those are excerpted Korans. They leave the bad parts out. Read a complete version, like the one done by Oxford.


166 posted on 02/04/2010 3:39:20 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: A Navy Vet

If rape and murder is your thing then go ahead and join the Jihad. Our troops will find you. Would you like popler or cedar?


167 posted on 02/04/2010 12:49:40 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: A Navy Vet

Are you people really this obtuse?


168 posted on 02/04/2010 11:15:28 PM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2441729/posts?page=165#165


169 posted on 02/05/2010 11:31:10 AM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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