Posted on 01/31/2010 11:34:10 AM PST by pissant
White House: One Vote Away in House From Making Health Reform a Reality
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This is a done deal, even if they have to use “reconciliation” or any other method they may choose to use.
By any means necessary...sounds sinister does it not?
Well it IS!
I still say if they do this that there will be plenty of time for the veto-proof Republican majority that will be elected next November to undo the entire thing as if it never happened.
Yup, all pubbies would have to do is campaign on repealing deathcare and that would be enough. Then again, a lot of dems might campaign with that promise too and then renig. After all, dems have no ethics or moral standards to live by so anything goes with them.
They did the head fake thing just before Christmas, too. They claimed, “Gosh, we just don’t have the votes!”, only to vote it in in the middle of the night during a holiday.
When they said after Brown was elected they didn’t have the votes, I thought the same thing; nothing but a head fake.
Shouldn't politicians be more concerned about the problem that many American's struggle with, the high cost of government? Our political system is being undermined by corruption, dishonesty and incompetence. Our government is well known to be wasteful, inefficient, and frequently ineffective, e.g. the public school systems in many parts of the country. The response by the Obama team's lawyers and politicians to say they now want practice medicine. Why can't they start doing the job they were hired to do, rather than attempting to take over someone else's job, a job for which most of them have very little understanding?
If they want to practice medicine, they should go to medical school, if they want to govern, start cutting waste and working to deliver a better product at a reduced cost, like the rest of the country does.
But not “one more person to vote for it”, he meant “one vote in the house” could send the senate bill to the President.
It’s kind of funny watching the ups and downs, and seeing the democrats manipulate our feelings.
They won the election last year. They have more than enough votes in the house. With Specter defecting, they had 60 senate votes.
The Democrats could, at any time, pass any health care bill, and any other bill, they want, so long as they can get their own members to go off the cliff for them.
That has been true from day one, and the power of the republicans to stop them has only barely existed, first when we “had Specter” but he voted against us on the stimulus, to when Kennedy died but it was summer anyway.
We aren’t going to ever vote for a democrat. The democrats know that, so no blue dog or moderate cares about voting the way we want to “earn our vote”. At some point, they will realise that the only way they can win is to get their base out for them. Sure, they also need the moderates and independents, but that won’t help if they stab their party in the back.
This is especially true now that they were tricked into voting for health care, both in the house and senate. They can’t take back those votes, and with those votes they sealed their fate with the independents and dissaffected republicans.
So now republicans have little power. We could propose a good health care bill, and then compromise with the democrats. We’d probably win, and get a much better bill than they have now. That might rescue some democrats unfortunately, and we’d end up with a bill the conservatives didn’t like.
Or we can still say no, and hope that the democrats are willing to accept defeat, knowing that defeat will mean their defeat in november.
We are hoping for a few moderate democrats to stand up for what is good for America. Wow. I’m hopeful, but I’m not letting myself get jerked around by Pelosi claiming she has the votes for this or that.
Pelosi is pathetic. She’s got a 50-seat majority, and is reduced to lying about how she’s “got the votes” for a democratic bill that defines their party. I remember when Republicans were in the majority and we conservatives had to put up with that kind of crap, knowing we had the “votes” but never being able to get the votes.
one vote and tens of millions of Americans short....
Now reconciliation is another problem. I don't think that will happen either and, AFAIK, there is no actual work being done on a reconciliation bill that would have the support of the House and Senate. So it's a ways off in any case and the closer you get to an actual election the more difficult it will be for the Dems to actually do it. After all, if they wanted to push it through pre-Scott Brown they have had plenty of time. If they can't do that I doubt that they can actually get the votes to do it all.
Makes me wonder what kind of reception mandatory health insurance will get at SCOTUS after the SOTU speech. My guess: Alito thinks it’s unconstitutional.
Sounds like a Bolchevic plot to me.
One vote away from an American revolution????
There was some lefty forum on C-spit last night that was cheerleading the hell out of the Bluedogs to “don’t listen to that train sound coming from this tunnel we are in” and vote with the party. Sure sounded like a lot of Protesting Too Loudly, to me.
You can make a safe bet that if they have enough House votes, they would schedule the vote this afternoon. One member from the Black Caucus could vote twice and we’d never know it.
This cheerleading forum also pushed NOW, NOW, DO IT NOW, as they all recognize that everyday closer to Nov. elections, the scarier it gets for many dems. Time has always been of the essence!
Ain’t going to happen, folks.
I still say when there are more “Pauls” than “Peters” we are sunk. (referring to stealing from Peter to give to Paul)
“One vote away from an American revolution????”
No. It has been nothing but all talk. I haven’t seen the will yet if ever.
Well this guy is too scary for me ...
I do think they did not have enough vote then, nor today (yet). Trumpeting the health care ‘reform’ has been 0bama’s dream, and especially without any real accomplishment, that would have been the crown of his SOTU. The fact that they couldn’t push for it, even before MA election, tells me that they did not have the vote.
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