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Genealogists Say Obama, Sen.-Elect Brown Related
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Posted on 01/29/2010 8:00:09 AM PST by Dallas

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To: VastRWCon

LOL - I actually thought about that. Maybe saying I’m doing family research or something but I doubt that would fly.


41 posted on 01/29/2010 10:40:46 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Dallas

Why does ‘wood shed’ come to mind?


42 posted on 01/29/2010 10:51:46 AM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Hawthorn

“To be a genealogist, one must do genealogy. So what were we supposed expect of the genealogists involved in this exercise?”

So that’s all geneologist do is sit around trying to figure out who’s related to Obama?


43 posted on 01/29/2010 11:01:34 AM PST by Wee-Weed Up
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To: ConservativeStatement
Next they'll find he's related to the House of Windsor and is 9,344th in line to inherit the throne.

Leni

44 posted on 01/29/2010 11:08:16 AM PST by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: Verginius Rufus
>> 10th cousins may not share any DNA, unless they are descended in the direct male line from a common ancestor and share the same Y chromosome <<

Almost, but not quite. They also could share mtDNA, if both descend in an unbroken female-to-female line from a common 9th-great-grandmother.

Moreover, total genome "sample scans" sold by the firms 23andMe and deCODEme now are sometimes able to pick up shared DNA as far as eight generations back, no matter that the ancestral trails involved are mixed between males and females. For example, my own 23andMe DNA results show a "haploblock in common" with a known sixth cousin -- whose paper trail back to our common 5th-great-grandfather passes thru several female ancestors.

Now to be sure, these total genome scans (based BTW on the Illumina chip technology) aren't yet as reliable for genealogy as are the standard Y-chromosome and mtDNA tests. But when the cost of total genome sequencing -- as opposed to today's "sampling" -- falls down to ca. $100.00 per shot, then we might be able to do reliable DNA tracing back to the generation of our 9th-great-grandparents. I guess we'll just have to be patient for another five or ten years!

45 posted on 01/29/2010 11:15:24 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Wee-Weed Up

That’s where the money is—having people pay you to prove that they are NOT related to the Dear Leader.


46 posted on 01/29/2010 12:58:01 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Hawthorn
I had forgotten about mitochondrial DNA. Of course it's hard to know from genealogical records that you have common ancestors in a direct female line 10 generations back, because the records are less complete for women and the surnames keep changing, unless you are descended from royalty or upper ranks of the nobility.

I attended a family reunion several years ago where I was struck by the resemblance among many of the cousins who may have been fourth, fifth or sixth cousin (last common ancestor was in the 18th century), and living in widely separated areas so not likely to have common ancestry on other lines.

47 posted on 01/29/2010 1:05:18 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Hawthorn
I had forgotten about mitochondrial DNA. Of course it's hard to know from genealogical records that you have common ancestors in a direct female line 10 generations back, because the records are less complete for women and the surnames keep changing, unless you are descended from royalty or upper ranks of the nobility.

I attended a family reunion several years ago where I was struck by the resemblance among many of the cousins who may have been fourth, fifth or sixth cousin (last common ancestor was in the 18th century), and living in widely separated areas so not likely to have common ancestry on other lines.

48 posted on 01/29/2010 1:07:18 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Dallas

If you go back far enough, we’re ALL related.


49 posted on 01/29/2010 1:10:56 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Psalm 144
Obama is a golem; an artificial construct animated by perverse majiks. No one is related to that alchemical homunculus. This is the real reason there are no birth records. Michelle is actually the children’s father.

ROFL!!!!!

50 posted on 01/29/2010 1:14:30 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Ol' Sparky
Considering how *intelligent* these people are, they're confusing a name with a color. I wonder if Scott Green or Scott White would have had the same effect.

Yes, I'm feeling quite nasty today and probably should not post this... but ... what the hay!

51 posted on 01/29/2010 1:23:46 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: murron
If you have one or more ancestors who were in America before about 1670, chances are very good that you are related to anyone else who shares that trait.

Not 100%, but very good. The reasons are simple:

Each generation back doubles the pool of available ancestors while shrinking the pool of available people.

The chances for commonality likewise increase.

These chances dramatically increase before about 1670 not only because one pool (available ancestors) is still doubling every generation back and the other pool (available people) is shrinking but because of world events.

Pre 1670, you had select groups of people (Puritans, Dutch, Baptists, plantation slaves, etc.) who were moving to America for very specific reasons and were often already related. Post 1670, you have a massive increase in this pool because the type of people (debtors, petty criminals, Jacobites, Acadians, etc.) as well as the sheer quantity becomes more diverse.

Long story short is that about half my ancestors are pre-1670, inluding some who were here pre-1600 (Natives), so I'm related to Obummer through the same ancestrial line which he shares with Dick Cheney. No brag, just fact.

52 posted on 01/29/2010 2:16:32 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Ol' Sparky

LMAO


53 posted on 01/29/2010 3:12:28 PM PST by Dallas
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To: Dallas

DISSING COUSINS: OBAMA, CHENEY, BUSH RELATED

By HASANI GITTENS

Last Updated: 5:00 AM, October 17, 2007

Posted: 5:00 AM, October 17, 2007

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/item_KJXdKMwZqBgHPdXXdGWnEP#ixzz0e2xMVb6A


54 posted on 01/29/2010 3:25:00 PM PST by Mila
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