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Nancy Pelosi floats two-track health reform
Politico ^ | January 27, 2010 | John F. Harris

Posted on 01/27/2010 1:48:12 PM PST by jazusamo



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; 2010; agenda; bhohealthcare; dncstrategy; elections; fourth100days; healthcare; helathcare; liberalfascism; obamacare; pelosi
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“We have to get it done,” the speaker said. “What the process is doesn’t matter.

Blind as a bat and dumb as a rock.

1 posted on 01/27/2010 1:48:13 PM PST by jazusamo
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2 posted on 01/27/2010 1:50:42 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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I wish she couldn’t float.

And she were about 100 km out to sea.


3 posted on 01/27/2010 1:51:55 PM PST by Da Coyote
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Fabianism. This how they imposed socialism in England.


4 posted on 01/27/2010 1:57:46 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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...with Congress pursuing easier-to-pass incremental changes now and comprehensive reform later.

How can this be done through reconciliation? Since no bill has been passed into law that would seem to me to be off the table. Reconciliation from what I understand is only for enacted bills.

It really sounds as if just they're playing to their dumb nutroots and kos kook base.

5 posted on 01/27/2010 1:58:13 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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Blind as a bat and dumb as a rock.

Squeaker Pelosi is not dumb, my FRiend (that would be Misses Boxer).

She does, however, believe that WE are pretty stupid.

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6 posted on 01/27/2010 2:01:14 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday floated the idea of a two-track plan for health care reform — with Congress pursuing easier-to-pass incremental changes now and comprehensive reform later.

That's actually a good idea, Nancy. And if you pick the right increments, like 'portability', and use market-based solutions, you will eliminate the need for the latter, top-down, one-size-fits-all national solution.

7 posted on 01/27/2010 2:01:18 PM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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Here’s an idea: cram it up your arse, Nazi.


8 posted on 01/27/2010 2:01:39 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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They had better do it now, because it doesn’t matter if they do or not, they are going down in flames in November and won’t have the opportunity again in Pelosi’s lifetime. Obama, Reid, and Pelosi have set the Dems back 15 years with their bumbling antics.
9 posted on 01/27/2010 2:03:11 PM PST by Carling (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.)
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Pelosi reiterated that ramming the existing Senate bill through the House is not an option. “There is no support in my caucus in the present form, at this time, for the Senate bill,” she said.

I need to keep that statement on file for the next hundred FReeper posts saying that the House is going to pass the Senate version.

10 posted on 01/27/2010 2:05:03 PM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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Pelosi reiterated that ramming the existing Senate bill through the House is not an option.

“There is no support in my caucus in the present form, at this time, for the Senate bill,” she said. “I don’t see that as an option. But I do think that we’re in range to make some improvements in it that will make it more affordable for the middle class, which is essential. Hold the insurance companies more accountable. Those two things are essential to us.”

Not quite the stake in the heart but it sounds like the current crap they were trying is dead?

11 posted on 01/27/2010 2:07:15 PM PST by GUNGAGALUNGA (Democratus Suckus Teatus is the Latin root for Democrat and it means to tax)
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Does anyone else see the likeness of Madam Pelosi to Marie Antoinette?


12 posted on 01/27/2010 2:11:31 PM PST by MissyMack66
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with Congress pursuing easier-to-pass incremental changes now and comprehensive reform later.

AKA boil the frog slowly.

13 posted on 01/27/2010 2:13:00 PM PST by lowbridge ("We may be wrong, but the point is, we believe in what we're doing." - Joe Biden)
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Sounds like the Senate bill in the House is dead alright or she wouldn’t be saying it.


14 posted on 01/27/2010 2:13:21 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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“What the process is doesn’t matter. The outcome is what is important,”

The ends justify the means.


15 posted on 01/27/2010 2:25:36 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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"I need to keep that statement on file for the next hundred FReeper posts saying that the House is going to pass the Senate version."

Pelosi reiterated that ramming the EXISTING Senate bill through the House is not an option. “There is no support in my caucus IN THE PRESENT FORM, at this time, for the Senate bill,” she said.

What the Rats are trying to pull together behind closed doors, which has been explained to you by, oh, about a hundred FReepers, is that the Senate will agree TO MAKE CHANGES to the EXISTING Senate bill to satisfy the House using the reconciliation process, which is not subject to filibuster. After enough House Rats have been satisfied that the changes will indeed be made to the Senate bill, they will move forward.

I don't know whether they will be successful or at the end of the day even try to hold such votes. But the effort to pull such a plan together has been reported in a number of press accounts.

Only a fool would go around telling people to relax, stop putting the spotlight on what they are trying to do, let the pressure off.

16 posted on 01/27/2010 2:45:18 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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17 posted on 01/27/2010 2:45:25 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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What the Rats are trying to pull together behind closed doors, which has been explained to you by, oh, about a hundred FReepers, is that the Senate will agree TO MAKE CHANGES to the EXISTING Senate bill to satisfy the House using the reconciliation process, which is not subject to filibuster. After enough House Rats have been satisfied that the changes will indeed be made to the Senate bill, they will move forward.

Really?

They are going to strengthen the anti-abortion issue to match that of the House?

I don't know whether they will be successful or at the end of the day even try to hold such votes. But the effort to pull such a plan together has been reported in a number of press accounts.

The Senate is not going to go over its Bill and change anything-it can't.

All this rhetoric by Pelosi is to put the blame for the failure to get the Bill passed on Reid and the Senate Democrats.

Only a fool would go around telling people to relax, stop putting the spotlight on what they are trying to do, let the pressure off.

Only an idiot would constantly not grasp the simple fact that THIS Bill is dead.

And stop talking nonsense about 'pressure'.

The pressure was delivered when the GOP won in Mass.

You, and other like you, will be wringing your hands about this right up to the election.. 'maybe they will do this, maybe they will do that....'

18 posted on 01/27/2010 2:55:16 PM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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we would still have to do this for financial reasons.”

This is what this Bill was really about-raising taxes.

Now, Obama is in a real fix, he was counting on getting that money.

19 posted on 01/27/2010 2:56:49 PM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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Sounds like the Senate bill in the House is dead alright or she wouldn’t be saying it.

That Bill would have been unlikely to pass even with the Mass win.

The Democrats needed 60 votes because they knew a reconciled Bill meant changes in the Senate version, which meant it could be filabusted again.

That is why they were so depressed when they lost their supermajority.

If Pelosi thought they didn't need to go through the Senate, they wouldn't have cared.

Now, the Reconcilation process is about passing budget issues only.

And they might do that because they want the taxes.

However, if they do that, they lose the cover of saying they are raising taxes for health care, since there won't be any health care Bill.

20 posted on 01/27/2010 3:04:44 PM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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