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Obama aims to ax moon mission
Orlando Sentinel ^ | Wednesday, January 27, 2010

Posted on 01/27/2010 7:07:00 AM PST by rightcoast

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To: rightcoast
No whitey on the moon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5smPcN8AoE

81 posted on 01/27/2010 8:10:17 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: MEGoody

DON’T TOUCH THE MOON
Don’t touch them moon.
I need it for loving.
Don’t touch the stars.
I need them, too.
All you frantic scientists,
Find somewhere else to go.

—Cornell Blakeley, Fulton Records #2473, 1957


82 posted on 01/27/2010 8:10:48 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: My Favorite Headache
Do you have ANY idea what this is going to do to the local economy?

So we should keep shoveling tax-payer money into a pointless enterprise just so people can stay employed? I do think NASA is a waste now. However, if they axe it, the money will simply be wasted on some other useless pork project, so I guess we should just keep the status quo.

83 posted on 01/27/2010 8:10:50 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Frantzie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5smPcN8AoE


84 posted on 01/27/2010 8:11:29 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Spktyr
The moon actually is of military importance, especially if you look at how the 21st century is shaping up.

It'll never be used that way (by us). It'll just be an expensive location for a space toilet.

85 posted on 01/27/2010 8:12:25 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: PogySailor
See "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress"

Vote Adam Selene for president.
Get out the old Eisenhower buttons and change them to I Like Mike!
86 posted on 01/27/2010 8:13:22 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: brownsfan

NASA is a joke. It was good when the Germans ran it. Idiots at NASA have supported Democrat Bill Nelson “the space hillbilly liberal AH gomer dumba*s” Senator.

Nice to see NASA getting payback from Dems like UAW workers. Idiots. The UAW workers will be toast soon.

It is run like the postal service. The space program died with Von Braun. Idiots sitting around in America watching ball games on TV while illegals and liberal who control TV stole your country.

Maybe someone like Dick Rutan can change things. The fact Americans elected an illegal alien from Kenya means things do not look good for America.


87 posted on 01/27/2010 8:14:00 AM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: GonzoGOP

Well, whether or not a lunar rock is a relativistic projectile depends on how powerful your railgun is and how massive the rock is.

At the very least, you’re looking at something coming down at orbital velocity.


88 posted on 01/27/2010 8:15:01 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Sans-Culotte
Little use for going to the moon?

What is your plan for defending the USA if the Chinesse or Russians decide to start hurling rocks at us from the moon? I wonder what the kenekic energy would be for say a hard 1 ton rock falling 240,000 miles? Bet that would make one hell of a big band when it hit. And no pesky radioactive fall out either.

I also wonder what useful resources might be found on the moon in abundance. I do know there is lots of H3 there and H3 is something like 1000x more valuable then gold. Wonder what else might be there?

If Obama manages to implement his vision of a space program then the USA will have no man capable rocket or space craft (unless the Air Force has one they are not talking about). The Chinese will have one, the Russian already have one and the EU is very close to having one. And if I am not mistaken the Japanese are working on one and maybe even India is too.

This is going to be very bad news to the folks at JSC in Houston and bad news for the folks at KSC in Fla. I might be willing to go along if every other federal agency is similarly cut or eliminated to balance the federal budget.

89 posted on 01/27/2010 8:15:32 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Sans-Culotte

Actually, a semi-permanent or permanent moon outpost of the US would actually ensure that such things didn’t happen - even if we didn’t equip it with its own accelerator.


90 posted on 01/27/2010 8:17:47 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: sam_paine
More money, easier living, guaranteed consistent future. For the 'scientists' who want a career instead of a living doing science, this will win them over.

I'm reminded of the demise of the Superconducting Super Collider. Many physicists of that era felt big government broke a covenant with academia dating back to before the Manhattan project. No longer could gifted young physicists and mathematicians dedicate their life's work to research with expectation of a career provided by the grateful government.

91 posted on 01/27/2010 8:18:47 AM PST by no-s (B.L.O.A.T. and every day...because some day soon they won't be making any more...for you.)
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To: dead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9MZNEXrElw


92 posted on 01/27/2010 8:19:40 AM PST by crusadersoldier
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To: rightcoast
This is no surprise. Money for global warming, welfare, Obama brown shirt dependent classes, sundry payoffs, but not for the high frontier. I wonder what percentage of NASA workers voted for Obama? I also wonder how much recruiting for NASA engineers and scientists will now be made by Russia or China.
93 posted on 01/27/2010 8:21:50 AM PST by Truth29
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To: GL of Sector 2814

But it’s damn near unanimous on the Left. Strict libertarians are (unfortunately) not that common on the right, but it’s from the Left that you hear “dey should spend dat money on da people here” etc.

The Left opposes the expansion of humanity into space for the same reason as they hate rural America and want to drive everyone into cities: The more concentrated people are, the easier they are to control.


94 posted on 01/27/2010 8:23:36 AM PST by denydenydeny (The Left sees taxpayers the way Dr Frankenstein saw the local cemetery; raw material for experiments)
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To: Spktyr
At the very least, you’re looking at something coming down at orbital velocity.

Thats the point, you don't need a relativistic projectile. I know there is no such thing as overkill, just a continuum between open fire and the need to reload. But at some point the additional cost to build the thing just isn't justified. You don't need the worlds largest dragline to dig a hole for a fence post.

Besides the higher the velocity the longer the rail-gun has to be. And the longer it is the harder it is to hide it. You would to a lot better with four or five hidden rail-guns than one giant relativistic weapon that can get taken out in a preemptive strike before it becomes operational.
95 posted on 01/27/2010 8:25:18 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

That is your opinion. There are tens of thousands of people who keep hundreds of business going here. So you are rooting for the death of an industry that you believe is dead and rooting for the death of our local economy and housing market.

Well Thank God NASA isn’t in your backyard, right?

There is more that goes on in Space than just circling the planet and taking pictures you know.


96 posted on 01/27/2010 8:25:52 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: Fiji Hill
DON’T TOUCH THE MOON
Don’t touch them moon.
I need it for loving.
Don’t touch the stars.
I need them, too.
All you frantic scientists,
Find somewhere else to go.

—Cornell Blakeley, Fulton Records #2473, 1957

Cornell Blakeley sounds like a Space Age luddite. Here's Lenny Welch's answer: Rocket to the Moon, from 1958.

97 posted on 01/27/2010 8:28:25 AM PST by Taft in '52
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To: Borges
Which technologies?

If you were expecting me to say "Teflon" or "Velcro", don't expect me to bite.

However, high speed digital communications, one technology that I'm intimately familiar with, has direct ties to NASA technology from the Apollo program, along with many other advances in electronics technology. Advances, often rapid advances, in this area of technology were undoubtedly driven by the space program of the 1960's. Texas Instruments is a prime example. Motorola, too. The cell phone you probably use every day has it's roots in the heady days of the Apollo program. Those innovations in electronics and electrical engineering are far too numerous to begin to mention them all here, but those are good examples. Others include fluid pumping technologies on microscopic to Olympic sized swimming pool scale. As a result, major contributions to medical science and materials science needed to develop the systems of the Apollo project were also gained, either by the invention of new science and materials, or by bringing existing, little known science and materials into the mainstream of everyday life. The number of engineers alone in my generation that were produced after Apollo, myself included, are directly attributable to being inspired by the Apollo program as a child. I recall when I was an undergrad at Ga. Tech. One of my first engineering classes the professor asked the class how many people were there because they were fans of the space program. Nearly every hand in the class went up. This was in the early 1980's.

Look up "NASA Spinoffs" for more info.

98 posted on 01/27/2010 8:31:04 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: GonzoGOP

Don’t need to hide it. Just call it an ‘economical vehicle launcher’ (which it is), claim that it is to be used to launch payloads of ore back to Earth orbit for recovery, or just build physically large capsules and size the railgun for that. Obama wouldn’t order a strike on that. :P


99 posted on 01/27/2010 8:35:29 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: rightcoast

Who didn’t see this coming when the economy began to implode?


100 posted on 01/27/2010 8:37:06 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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