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Obamacare Is Dead and Here's Why [Obamacare Ongoing Thread]
Town Hall ^ | 1-26-10 | Robert A. Levy

Posted on 01/25/2010 11:27:02 PM PST by JustPiper

As the Massachusetts blame game unfolds, the president’s unpopular health bill leads the list. But the substantive provisions of the bill were just part of the problem. Perhaps more important, voters were appalled by how the deal unfolded.

Consider the pre-election giveaway to the labor unions. Negotiators agreed to exempt union contracts until 2018 from the tax on so-called Cadillac health-insurance plans. That backroom bargain not only outraged the voters, it also violated the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, requiring the federal government to extend equal protection of the laws to all U.S. persons. Of course, not all voters understood the constitutional nuances, but they sensed that something was very wrong; and they reacted.

I have been disturbed by the socialists for years, ever since I learned many members of Congress 'openly' joined the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America). Several years ago, the names were published on the DSA site. (since removed of course) Please post any info you have, many of you have been on this issue for many years, & if we can store it all on one thread, we have our FreeRepublic Warehouse on the enemies of the state. How DO we combat this, when it's coming at us from every angle? When the people have been asleep for decades. Please post anything you have found or accumulated. Also choose a dictator these people follow, of particular interest,those in D.C. who have been quoted with their adulation of one.

Communism- Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Trotskyism-Maoism- Hoxhaism-Hoxhaism-Titoism ETC


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The Final Battle on Health Care: Everything You Need to Know

In the RIGHT corner

Press Release: Boehner to Speaker Pelosi: “Every Member Should Stand Before the American People and Announce His or Her Vote” GOP Leader Calls for Special “Call of the Roll” to Require Members to Publicly Announce Health Care Vote on the House Floor

Whip it REAL GOOD

Boehner Whips Up Opposition as Democrats Drive Toward Health Care Vote

Hatch Says It’s ’Nuts’ to Think House Vote Ends Health Issue

Abortion opponents disagree on health-care bill's pro-life credentials

As Dems struggle, GOP candidates line up to run


1,601 posted on 03/20/2010 12:39:40 PM PDT by JustPiper (Paulie the Mascot For the States that say Say "No" To Health Care Reform)
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To: JustPiper

Administration Actuary Can’t Analyze Health Bill Before Final Vote
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2475524/posts


1,602 posted on 03/20/2010 12:39:56 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: All

Anyone have a web site tracking ALL of the likely votes for HCR? I can only find sites that have partial lists.


1,603 posted on 03/20/2010 12:40:06 PM PDT by hugorand
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To: blackie

I’m sure that by 1990, you could see the writing on the wall re California. The illegal invasion had already started.


1,604 posted on 03/20/2010 12:40:37 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: hugorand

Hannity has said he’s been actively tracking the vote tally. Last I heard, a lot of fence sitters. This might remain a slugfest throughout the weekend.


1,605 posted on 03/20/2010 12:41:11 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

pelosi looks too happy ...
bad vibes here.


1,606 posted on 03/20/2010 12:42:50 PM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; JustPiper

Drudge is hot on the issue today:

http://www.drudgereport.com/

House Dems drop ‘deem and pass’...
PELOSI FLASHBACK: We Don’t Have The Votes To Pass The Senate Bill...
SOURCE: They’re going to vote for the ‘fix it’ bill, before voting on Senate-passed bill. They’re going to vote against it, before voting for it...
Whoa! Obama actuary CAN’T analyze bill in time...
Boehner asks Pelosi for ‘call of the roll’...
President Heads to Hill...
Health Vote and the Constitution...
Obama promises broken in final bill...
House Leaders Work to Defuse 11th-Hour Fight Over Medicare...
Hatch: House Dems ‘Nuts’ to Think Sunday Vote Settles It...
CBO: MEDICARE FIX MAKES IT RED...
Rules Committee meeting descends into chaos...
VIDEO: Key House Dem Declares: ‘There Ain’t No Rules Here ... We Make ‘Em Up As We Go Along’...


1,607 posted on 03/20/2010 12:43:02 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: MestaMachine

Please, Dear Lord. Lightning down through all their shoes. PLEASE!


1,608 posted on 03/20/2010 12:44:02 PM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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In the WRONG corner

'Deeming' vs. the Constitution-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she will ram the unpopular Senate health bill through the House without a vote. Article 1, Sect. 7 of the Constitution says she can't.

Biden: Healthcare Takeover Is About Nationalizing Insurance Companies Too

Democrats plan doc fix AFTER reform

House Leaders Work to Alleviate 11th-Hour Medicare Concerns

Sucker punched from either corner
Equipment Maker Says Health Care Bill Would Cost It $100 Million in First Year

1,609 posted on 03/20/2010 12:44:23 PM PDT by JustPiper (Paulie the Mascot For the States that say Say "No" To Health Care Reform)
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To: JustPiper

Reid says he has the votes to pass the fixit in the insanate.


1,610 posted on 03/20/2010 12:46:05 PM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: MestaMachine

I thought the same thing — jubilant even. I’m ignoring it til I see some hard, cold facts.

Marco Rubio Casts His Vote [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Or, at least, registers his opposition to the likely votes of Florida representatives — he calls out Allen Boyd, Suzanne Kosmas and Kendrick Meek by name in his latest campaign e-mail — and their likely votes tomorrow:

On behalf of over 10,000 Floridians who signed our ‘Scrap It’ petition and millions more who oppose ObamaCare, I urge Florida’s entire Congressional delegation to vote against this proposal. Across our state today, Floridians are partaking in rallies, tea parties, vigils and other expressions of opposition to ObamaCare. They are rightly concerned that the unthinkable is about to happen – our country’s leadership is about to take the first step towards government-run health care that we can’t afford and that will fundamentally re-define our health care system and economy for the worse.

I am particularly dismayed that Congressman Boyd and Congresswoman Kosmas are ignoring their constituents by suddenly deciding to switch their votes at the 11th hour. U.S. Reps. Boyd and Kosmas join Kendrick Meek in disregarding Floridians who believe that the current plan should be abandoned in its entirety. Time is running out, but it’s not too late for them and other Democrats to save their constituents and our nation from the lasting consequences of this ill-fated plan.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/


1,611 posted on 03/20/2010 12:46:38 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: MestaMachine; JustPiper; Impy

New health czar?

NYPD: Dracula Wannabe Repeatedly Bites Driver On Neck...
http://wcbstv.com/local/dracula.wannabe.bites.2.1574972.html

[Just lightening the mood.]


1,612 posted on 03/20/2010 12:47:30 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: MestaMachine

I am getting light headed from watching this. Seriously. Breathe. breathe.


1,613 posted on 03/20/2010 12:49:10 PM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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Ooops upside your head, arguing again

Lambert a No Show in COMM, big hullabaloo about it

Drier got heir snarky behinds:

Rewording Medicare TAX in Mgmt Amendment (pg 6) We need this posted here, anyone?

Renamed Medicare “TAX”
to make it seem like we’re getting a deal
Drier said change it & be honest?!
Now called “Unearned income medicare contribution”
~Holding head
Offered Drier, We’ll change the wording if YOU vote for the RECON bill

Ryan states 210 billion tax, diverting funds, set up medicare tax fund THEN RAID IT!!!


1,614 posted on 03/20/2010 12:49:57 PM PDT by JustPiper (Paulie the Mascot For the States that say Say "No" To Health Care Reform)
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To: MestaMachine

So Senate only needs 51 votes?


1,615 posted on 03/20/2010 12:51:04 PM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

The greatest democratic caucus in the history of the world!!!
Oh, gag me with a spoon!


1,616 posted on 03/20/2010 12:51:18 PM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: newfreep

That’s it. fifty one and done.


1,617 posted on 03/20/2010 12:52:02 PM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: MestaMachine

“I’m ignoring it til I see some hard, cold facts.”

“Reid says he has the votes to pass the fixit in the insanate.”

and we know Reid or Pelosi, or Zero or any of their topdog minions cannot be trusted with the “facts.” They have been saying they have the votes for weeks.

This is a pep rally; it was billed as a pep rally.

We need several independent sources for confirmation, and so far, I don’t see any credible confirmation that they have the votes..


1,618 posted on 03/20/2010 12:52:12 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

BREAKING NEWS House Dems will not “deem” Senate health bill passed

~I liken it to in Chicago LEO’s

The Cook County sheriff’s look down on the Chgo city cop, they look down on them, then we have the Ill State Police who look down on both of them & are ridiculed by both of them

So forth, the Senate has always been arrogant like the State cops, looking down on the House, which my analogy would be the County Sheriff -g-


1,619 posted on 03/20/2010 12:53:13 PM PDT by JustPiper (Paulie the Mascot For the States that say Say "No" To Health Care Reform)
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To: JustPiper

see post 1600 for the link


1,620 posted on 03/20/2010 12:55:11 PM PDT by thouworm
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