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'Fixing' birth certificates ? Doors wide open for fraud
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| January 25, 2010
| Drew Zahn
Posted on 01/25/2010 8:41:15 PM PST by RobinMasters
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To: ExTexasRedhead; justiceseeker93; traderrob6; OL Hickory; socialismisinsidious; trlambsr; Altera; ...
To: RobinMasters
In fact, an exceedingly dangerous terrorist with just such a fake record did precisely this.
He is now systematically and maliciously destroying the US economy, our civil rights, and the national defense.
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posted on
01/25/2010 8:51:04 PM PST
by
FormerACLUmember
(The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. - H. L. Menken.)
To: RobinMasters; ManoftheWest; bgill; Whenifhow; malkee; STE=Q; rocco55; thouworm; rxsid; GOPJ; ...
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posted on
01/25/2010 8:52:28 PM PST
by
null and void
(We are now in day 369 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
To: RobinMasters
no worries. a chip with a unique personal identifier will fix that right up.
It'll be like the first coming of the Messiah, with a world census in order to get everyone registered.
To: RobinMasters
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posted on
01/25/2010 8:59:55 PM PST
by
dalebert
To: RobinMasters
Heck, who needs to do it "illegally" by filing or altering faked documents when HI, back in 1961, actually had a law that ALLOWED foreign born baby's to be eligibile to apply for a HI
birth certificate.
HI Territorial Law 57
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posted on
01/25/2010 9:01:50 PM PST
by
rxsid
(HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
To: null and void
digitalized vital records
Hmmm....where have I seen that before?
Hawaii digitalized vital records in 2001, everyone before that time had to rely on hard copy paper to obtain things like school registration, drivers licenses, passports, State ID cards, voter registration, eligibility for elected office....mundane stuff like that.
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posted on
01/25/2010 9:09:22 PM PST
by
BIGLOOK
(Keelhaul Congress!)
To: RobinMasters
Back in the late 70s/early 80s a guy was offering birth certificates to illegals for $25.
I believe they were from Mississippi.
Apparently he had someone in the records sept of some County and was inserting birth certificate records into the computer system as long as they were for someone under the age of 34.
That had something to do with their converting to computer records.
Unless the person was checked for a high security clearance, where they check the paper record, the fake would never be caught.
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posted on
01/25/2010 9:19:50 PM PST
by
dalereed
To: FormerACLUmember
"...an exceedingly dangerous terrorist...."
Who B dat?
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posted on
01/25/2010 9:24:12 PM PST
by
Paladin2
To: RobinMasters
This is a very sick and sad scenario. Forget all about security under these circumstances. I will say that you CANNOT do that in Canada. I actually checked with vital statistics for B.C. anyway and ONLY the person needing his/her own birth certificate must provide ALL of the pertinent information duly notarized by all parties including doctors, hospitals and then the parents must be checked out. I tried, even before Obama was elected, because I work in the legal field, to have searched out whether there was a certificate of his birth in Vancouver, B.C. They told me, absolutely NOT. ONLY the person who was born has access to that information. Nobody else, not even a Lawyer’s office, unless of course, the Lawyers office were given a Power of Attorney by the individual to obtain that document. THIS article points out and even highlights a HUGE hole in the United States security. CO
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posted on
01/25/2010 9:25:04 PM PST
by
Canadian Outrage
(Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
To: rxsid
What HI produced tho was very incomplete. It did not even resemble a true long form birth certificate. Look at the lack of information on what Obama has posted. It’s truly pathetic. CO
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posted on
01/25/2010 9:26:58 PM PST
by
Canadian Outrage
(Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
To: RobinMasters
Paper has multiple attractions vs. digital documentation.
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posted on
01/25/2010 9:31:10 PM PST
by
Paladin2
To: RobinMasters
The Chinese and Russians are probably printing up Short Form Birth Certificates in mass quantities.
At least if they went to digital *images* of the original documents, those would be much harder to fake, at least fakes that would stand up to any more than casual examination. At least they'd be images of orignal documents, showing all the information on the originals, which could be cross checked with other records, rather than printed with a template extracts of *some* of the information on the original certificate, which leave very little that can be cross checked, especially with the ridiculous interpretation of "Medical Privacy" laws to include birth records of highly public figures.
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posted on
01/25/2010 9:52:55 PM PST
by
El Gato
("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
To: RobinMasters
Probably this is how Barry will get himself fixed up with that birth certificate everyone is waiting for.
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posted on
01/25/2010 10:19:48 PM PST
by
jonrick46
(We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fascism.)
To: FormerACLUmember
In fact, an exceedingly dangerous terrorist with just such a fake record did precisely this. He is now systematically and maliciously destroying the US economy, our civil rights, and the national defense.Good Point
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posted on
01/26/2010 6:52:10 AM PST
by
Uncle Chip
(TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
To: the invisib1e hand
Taxing the world is starting to be implemented.
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:42:37 AM PST
by
American Constitutionalist
(There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
To: RobinMasters
This is exactly why I do not believe Hawaii destroyed any record. Those papers represent power and no county clerk would ever let loose of those original paper records.
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:50:11 AM PST
by
bgill
(The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
To: RobinMasters
Considering my current field of work, I find this very interesting. The State of Texas is busily scanning all the birth and death records, but the certified copies provided by the state will be very clear copies of the original certificate printed on security paper. Much different from the short form shown from HI.
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posted on
01/26/2010 9:54:23 AM PST
by
tarawa
To: Canadian Outrage
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What HI produced tho was very incomplete. It did not even resemble a true long form birth certificate. Look at the lack of information on what Obama has posted. Its truly pathetic. COThe world famous www jpeg for Barry is actually a modern day (rev 11/01) short form, and of course, of suspect authenticity.
If he obtained an original record back in 1961 by way of the 1957 law, that would look completely different.
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posted on
01/26/2010 10:17:33 AM PST
by
rxsid
(HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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