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Prepare Now to Escape Obama’s Retirement Trap
Whiskey and Gunpowder ^ | 1/21/10 | Ron Holland

Posted on 01/24/2010 6:21:51 AM PST by Daisyjane69

As the United States moves into a new decade of military overreach abroad and national bankruptcy at home, Washington is in a desperate search for more revenue and a solution to the future financing of the trillions in national debt obligations currently held by foreign central banks and investors. Economists, politicians and smart investors know the dollar’s days as the world reserve currency are numbered as is our ability to finance the national debt.

Although the historical government solution to unsustainable government debt loads has always been the destruction of the debts by currency depreciation and eventual hyperinflation, there is always an intermediate step used to buy more time for the politicians in power. This action, usually sidestepped and downplayed by the establishment historians paid to hide the real facts of history is wealth confiscation. Napoleon had it right when he stated, “History is a state of lies agreed upon.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: retirementfunds
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These folks are itching for a revolution, I'm thinkin'
1 posted on 01/24/2010 6:21:52 AM PST by Daisyjane69
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To: Daisyjane69

So, what can we do NOW to prepare?

Hoarde cash?


2 posted on 01/24/2010 6:26:33 AM PST by Reagan69 (The only thing SHOVEL-READY since BO's stimulus has been MICHAEL JACKSON (tammy bruce))
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To: Reagan69
So, what can we do NOW to prepare?

Take your pick, rock or hard place. They are both available yet.

3 posted on 01/24/2010 6:29:15 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Reagan69

The only thing I can think of, is to stop contributing to our 401k accounts (losing the tax advantage in the process) and self-fund our retirements.

Without the tax-favored blessing of gov’t. They know that confiscating private savings accounts will result in a civil war, I’m thinking.

We want to wait to see if this becomes law, before we do anything, of course.


4 posted on 01/24/2010 6:30:49 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Reagan69
Yes, I'm pretty much thinking of withdrawing out my total retirement stash in one, two or three increments - whichever chunks breaks the single disbursements into amounts not considered 'rich' by Zer0......

With a good big strong gunsafe and a place for a good amount of cash, confiscation or assessment of retirement accounts wouldn't bother me as much, personally.

You know, one of Clinton's czars actually campaigned for a 'one-time' retirement account 'assessment' of 15-20%. Can you imagine the percentage amount Zer0 is thinking of? In the end, they either print the money (with no value behind it forcing hyper inflation), or they raise taxes (certainly possible), or the just take money from existing accounts. The largest source of untapped funds right now available are the third choice.

5 posted on 01/24/2010 6:36:53 AM PST by Gaffer ("Profling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Daisyjane69
The only thing I can think of, is to stop contributing to our 401k accounts (losing the tax advantage in the process) and self-fund our retirements.

What if that is what Obama is really after? Convince a lot of people that 401(k)s are no longer safe politically to get people to stop contributing (and thus start paying taxes on there non-contributions) or even empty out the accounts to bury in the back yard (and pay taxes and penalties, ka-ching!).

6 posted on 01/24/2010 6:38:04 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Gore is the fifth horseman of the apocalypse. He rides an icy horse bringing cold wherever he goes.)
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To: Reagan69
So, what can we do NOW to prepare?

Buy land, guns, ammo.

7 posted on 01/24/2010 6:39:46 AM PST by FatherofFive (For the first time in my adult life, I am proud that Massachusettes is part of the United States!)
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To: Gaffer

If you read closely, “cash” (dollars) won’t be worth much. You need something with “hard” value like land or precious metals. Think of things that will retain it’s value globally. THAT is the best hedge against a dollar meltdown.


8 posted on 01/24/2010 6:43:10 AM PST by coldoc
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To: KarlInOhio

it appears that he is trying to save the Treasury market from crashing. That’s the only thing that allows him to keep spending.

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1830-401kIRA-Screw-Job-Coming.html

No one is buying our debt. China has bailed. Evidently his solution is to FORCE Americans to buy the debt no one else wants.

I hate this man. I truly do.


9 posted on 01/24/2010 6:43:11 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: KarlInOhio

and I also hate every single person that voted for him. That includes misinformed friends.

I’m madder than a hornet in September.


10 posted on 01/24/2010 6:45:09 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: coldoc

I agree about diminished value to an extent, but when in a period of like we’re talking (confiscation or ‘freezing’ of accounts) having cash is still better than numbers on a piece of paper with your name on it. Yes, land (I own free and clear), valuables (metals, ammo and firearms) other durables, are good too, and getting my hands on cash doesn’t mean that I wouldn’t look for the best I can get under the circumstances. Think about how screwed you’d be if the IRS froze all your credit and bank accounts.....the same thing could happen to your paper retirement accounts.


11 posted on 01/24/2010 6:47:23 AM PST by Gaffer ("Profling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Daisyjane69
Someone is buying at least some of our debt. The US Government! They are actually buying their own T-Bills! Sorta like using one credit card to make the payments on the other. They think by creating this false demand, other potential buyers won't be spooked about the flooded market for T-Bills.....used to have T-Bill sales yearly, then semi-annually, then monthly, now it's probably biweekly or weekly.......we are in deep deep Kimchi
12 posted on 01/24/2010 6:50:14 AM PST by Gaffer ("Profling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Reagan69

The key to taking your money out of your IRA’s and 401k’s will be the when they first start talking about this scheme. When they are at the money stealing phase, yes, have cash stuffed in a safe deposit box.

During a period of hyperinflation, US dollars will be worthless. Better to invest in gold, goods, or perhaps Euros.


13 posted on 01/24/2010 6:52:01 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: Gaffer

If I produce a product and the only people willing to purchase it are my own insiders, via force, it’s time to worry, no?

:(


14 posted on 01/24/2010 6:52:56 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Reagan69
Hoarde cash?

Cash won't do you any good if the dollar isn't worth anything. Better to hoarde gold, tobacco, firearms, ammo, liquor, fuel and anything you can easily barter with.

I'm just sayin...

15 posted on 01/24/2010 6:56:05 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Daisyjane69

Most Certainly!


16 posted on 01/24/2010 7:00:39 AM PST by Gaffer ("Profling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Reagan69

Not cash — whiskey and gunpowder.


17 posted on 01/24/2010 7:10:13 AM PST by Touch Not the Cat
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To: Daisyjane69
Wouldn't responding to this fear by withdrawing our money effectively repeat the run on banks that occurred during the depression, resulting in recreating the same scenario, and an irresistible crisis for the Obamunists to pounce upon?

Sounds like their plan.

18 posted on 01/24/2010 7:12:56 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

perhaps....

Let’s face it; there is all kinds of risk in this. Including the one you mention.


19 posted on 01/24/2010 7:21:47 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Daisyjane69

There are lots of awful things a far-left government can do to destroy our dreams and quality of life. Fortunately, this one is still a hypothetical. Financially, there is little that most of us can do to “Prepare” or “Escape”.

The only real solution is to elect a Congress and President which will move us back from the brink of financial disaster. Time is running short. We need one house of Congress in 2010 to stop further power grabs and investigate the ones that have happened, and need to take back the Presidency in 2012.


20 posted on 01/24/2010 7:32:50 AM PST by CaptainMorgantown
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