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Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Should Be Eliminated, (Barney) Frank Says
Wall Street Journal ^ | JANUARY 22, 2010 | NICK TIMIRAOS And MICHAEL R. CRITTENDEN

Posted on 01/23/2010 9:39:25 AM PST by DogByte6RER

Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Should Be Eliminated, Frank Says

By NICK TIMIRAOS And MICHAEL R. CRITTENDEN

A top House Democrat on Friday said his committee was preparing to recommend "abolishing" mortgage-finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and rebuilding the U.S. housing-finance system from scratch.

"The remedy here is...as I believe this committee will be recommending, abolishing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in their current form and coming up with a whole new system of housing finance," said Rep. Barney Frank (D., Mass.), the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee.

His comments initially rippled through bond markets on concerns that the government might pull away from the mortgage market. Many believe that's unlikely and that any revamp would include continued government involvement. The government took over the companies in September 2008 as loan losses mounted.

Some Republicans have argued that the companies should ultimately be reduced in size and privatized, while at other end of the spectrum, some analysts have recommended turning the companies into government agencies. But several industry groups and academics have suggested that the government is likely to continue playing at least some role in the future of the companies.

One such report came from analysts at Standard & Poor's this past week. "It's hard for us to imagine" how enough capital could be attracted to replace Fannie and Freddie with stand-alone private companies that would be able to offer low-cost funding for 30-year fixed-rate mortgages, the analysts wrote.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barneyfag; barneyfrank; cronycapitalism; cronyism; fanniemae; freddiemac; mortgagebubble; socialism
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To: DogByte6RER

Why? To cover his tracks? To hide the evidence? What’s he up to? It ain’t cause he’s suddenly a fiscally responsible Capitalist!


21 posted on 01/23/2010 10:06:01 AM PST by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Richard Kimball
Frank’s a representative. He’s up for re-election every two years.

And Brown won big in his district

22 posted on 01/23/2010 10:10:49 AM PST by Gordon Pym
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To: DogByte6RER

this is where conservatives need to ‘play it back’ to the dumrats. ‘agree’ that we need to abolish FM and FM, and get that to happen first. then conservatives can stop any further efforts to replace either one with a gov’t org.

as far as business goes, gov’t needs to stay out except to catch, prosecute and punish crooks. gov’t should, if anything, sponsor watchdog organizations that can monitor and record and report on unethical or rancid businesses and then let the consumer make their choice. then darwin can take over.

including themselves


23 posted on 01/23/2010 10:10:56 AM PST by jbp1 (be nice now)
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To: Yo-Yo

“What did Barney say about Freddie’s Fannie?”
-—The only punchline I could come up with
in less than the 10 seconds I reserve for these
riddles is:
“Mae I, Mac?”
Here’s hoping this is not an old joke, and I just discovered
the punchline on my own. I hate to be robbed that way.


24 posted on 01/23/2010 10:12:11 AM PST by supremedoctrine (Time is the school in which we learn that time is the fire in which we burn.)
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To: Yo-Yo

“What did Barney say about Freddie’s Fannie?”
-—The only punchline I could come up with
in less than the 10 seconds I reserve for these
riddles is:
“Mae I, Mac?”
Here’s hoping this is not an old joke, and I just discovered
the punchline on my own. I hate to be robbed that way.


25 posted on 01/23/2010 10:12:57 AM PST by supremedoctrine (Time is the school in which we learn that time is the fire in which we burn.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Like a snake shedding its skin.


26 posted on 01/23/2010 10:13:59 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: dalebert

Your right if they get investigated Frank will get hit hard,no pun intended.


27 posted on 01/23/2010 10:16:18 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Logic n' Reason

ooops...
Yes, Frank is up for re-election EVERY election.


28 posted on 01/23/2010 10:19:52 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Kirkwood

jus rename them Bwawny Fwag...


29 posted on 01/23/2010 10:22:48 AM PST by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: MrB
ooops...
Yes, Frank is up for re-election EVERY election.

You can see how much I pay attention to clowns, idiots, and oxygen wasters!!

However, you've given me good news....vote that scum out of office, for pete's sake!!!

30 posted on 01/23/2010 10:26:04 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (Keep your friends close......keep your enemies closer!)
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To: DogByte6RER

“I smell a rat.”

As do I. I agree with the end of Freddie and Fannie but when the arch Socialist suggest it there must be an IDE somewhere along the road!


31 posted on 01/23/2010 10:27:31 AM PST by SeaWolf (Orwell must have foreseen the 21st Century US Congress when he wrote 1984)
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To: DogByte6RER
The fundamental problem with the mortgage market is that making mortgage loans is risky. Making lousy mortgage loans is even riskier. When things get bad, they can get bad suddenly for all real estate loans in short order. The interest rate on mortgages needs to be high enough to cover the risk--and the profits in good times need to be available to absorb the losses in bad times. Rates should be, maybe, 7,8,9%? But that is politically unacceptable--people like Barney want "cheap" mortgages.

If mortgage rates are decreed to be cheaper than what the market would otherwise demand, somebody needs to bear the risk. The risk cannot be made to go away by any form of hand-waving by the government.

Freddie and Fannie were lucky for many years until they rolled a "7". They were a way to hide the risk (they were very complex organizations, hard to understand), but the risk was always there. Because they were so large, everybody knew that the taxpayers ultimately would be on the hook.

If Freddie and Fannie are abolished, the risk will be formally placed on you and me as taxpayers. But it has always been there--the taxpayers got lucky until 2007.

This is the real issue--how should our economy absorb the risk of mortgage lending. Coming up with the best answer will not be easy. This is particularly true if the profits made in good times are allowed to be separated from the losses in bad times.

32 posted on 01/23/2010 10:32:56 AM PST by nvskibum
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To: DogByte6RER
Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Should Be Eliminated, (Barney) Frank Says

I'm with Barney on this one.

Not because I favor what he's done or what he proposes to do or what he might really have in mind.

I favor this move simply because it's an opportunity to open up a can of worms. Once the can of worms is opened up, the opportunities to reform, or to undo, or to disband the agencies, are opened up.

Once discussions of reform are opened, investigations on the agency can be opened up and perhaps true reform which aids the housing market and the economy, can be undertaken.

Once the discussions on reform are started, neither Barney nor his liberal cohorts should be allowed to take the initiatives or to set the terms of reform.
33 posted on 01/23/2010 10:43:18 AM PST by adorno
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To: nvskibum
The two Mae's worked very well for many years. It wasn't until Bill Clinton Barney Franks, and Senator Christopher Dod decided it would be good business and lots of votes, to reduce the requirements for home loans.There was nothing wrong with the system, just the Democrats tinkering with it that caused all of the trouble.
34 posted on 01/23/2010 10:48:30 AM PST by BooBoo1000
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To: DogByte6RER

I smell Cloward-Piven


35 posted on 01/23/2010 10:49:01 AM PST by Califreak (Silence is golden. Duct tape is silver.)
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To: BooBoo1000
>>>The two Mae's worked very well for many years.<<<

Actually, that is not correct. In the late 70's-early 80-s, Fannie Mae was massively insolvent to the tune of several billions of dollars (it was a smaller institution then). This was due to another risk of mortgage lending (a risk different from credit risk) that was hidden --the interest rate risk of making long term fixed rate mortgages funded by short term borrowings. This blew up at the time when interest rates skyrocketed- Fannie was stuck with lots of money-losing, low yielding fixed rate mortgages. The problem was swept under the rug at the time.

This is why the administration of the great Ronaldus Magnus and a number of conservative economic thinkers, strongly opposed the role of Fannie and Freddie in the 80's. Unfortunately, due to the lobbying power of Fannie and Freddie, they got nowhere in Congress. People thought that having Freddie and Fannie absorb the risk of mortgages was a "free-lunch" way to have "cheap" mortgages. But TAANSTFL, and the taxpayers were on the hook then, as now.

36 posted on 01/23/2010 11:06:37 AM PST by nvskibum
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To: DogByte6RER
Oh dear me! Ol barney wants to save his big fat overworked ass by discarding Mae and Mac....dear oh dear...these two institutions were so CAREFULLY protected by Barney's refusal to allow them to be investigated when he was chair of house finance committee when GW was asking for both mortgage institutions to be overhauled and cleaned up!

Bwarney Wefused!!!

Dear oh dear what a WICKED WEB we WEAVE when first we practice to deceive!!

My guess......Bwarney is twying to save his job!!!

37 posted on 01/23/2010 11:07:12 AM PST by Republic
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To: supremedoctrine
“What did Barney say about Freddie’s Fannie?” -—The only punchline I could come up with in less than the 10 seconds I reserve for these riddles is: “Mae I, Mac?” Here’s hoping this is not an old joke, and I just discovered the punchline on my own. I hate to be robbed that way.

Funny! And original! My comment wasn't a riddle, it was just me trying to play on words. But your answer makes my stupid attempt at humor actually worth the bandwidth! Thanks!

38 posted on 01/23/2010 11:11:07 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: adorno
Barney then when he KNEW otherwise: ”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis.The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
39 posted on 01/23/2010 2:18:11 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Yo-Yo

No, thank YOU!
You just confirmed my private gloating when I came up with that in a “DAMN,I’M GOOD!” moment, and realized all the pieces fell into place-— even the gender-order, was right.
How do I do it?
I practice.
Check my other 6000 replies in the past 3 1/2 years.
And there were probably more than that , going back to March 1998.
But that’s another story.And another screenname.


40 posted on 01/23/2010 3:49:15 PM PST by supremedoctrine (Time is the school in which we learn that time is the fire in which we burn.)
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