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1 posted on 01/22/2010 6:59:47 AM PST by Still Thinking
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To: Still Thinking

Thanks for posting. I wondered what was happening with the movement...


2 posted on 01/22/2010 7:01:05 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Still Thinking

Let’s wake up the 10th Amendment!


3 posted on 01/22/2010 7:01:42 AM PST by Loud Mime (Liberalism is a Socialist Disease)
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” a valid exercise of commerse(sic) power”

Bull! They use that excuse far too often.


6 posted on 01/22/2010 7:06:24 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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The Feds counter that it is a valid exercise of commerse power because even sales of firearms that don't cross state lines have an effect on interstate commerce.

Yet another bad idea that came out of the FDR administration that has previously been supported by the courts.

Just because it has an effect on interstate commerce, it is not interstate commerce. That is equivalent to saying that the US government can regulate trade between the Middle East and China, as it could affect interstate commerce.

8 posted on 01/22/2010 7:07:48 AM PST by kosciusko51
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Finger in the feds’ eye ping!


10 posted on 01/22/2010 7:08:54 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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I thought states rights/laws trumpet federal law unless it’s unconstitutional?


16 posted on 01/22/2010 7:20:48 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: Still Thinking

I predict Montana loses this round.


17 posted on 01/22/2010 7:23:02 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
20 posted on 01/22/2010 7:26:40 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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Southwest Airlines began offering unregulated fares in Texas in the 70s based on that principle. They won when challenged.


37 posted on 01/22/2010 8:26:31 AM PST by qwertypie
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To: Still Thinking

Could be the spark needed for CW II.


43 posted on 01/22/2010 8:53:09 AM PST by Renegade (You go tell my buddies)
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The Feds counter that it is a valid exercise of commerse power because even sales of firearms that don't cross state lines have an effect on interstate commerce.

Replace "firearms" with any other product and you see that they can claim they control EVERYTHING.

46 posted on 01/22/2010 9:07:58 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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“even sales of firearms that don't cross state lines have an effect on interstate commerce.

For the Federalies EVERYTHING has an effect on interstate commerce – using that logic there isn't anything that is beyond their control.

What makes people think that after enduring a long string of abuses under despotism and enduring a long war to be free of them that the founding fathers would set up a government that would eventually go right back to tyranny?

What makes people think that the writers of the Constitution would have written in there all manner of restraints on the Government, and yet leave ONE loophole that invalidates the rights in the whole document?

What were the being paid by the word? There would be no point having all these restrains on governmental power and leave it all open to the feds through the commerce clause.

57 posted on 01/22/2010 9:51:25 AM PST by Voice of Reason88 (One man with a gun can control 100 without one-Vladimir Lenin (The Statist view on guns))
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With their reasoning, what doesn’t potentially effect interstate commerce?

They are using interstate commerce to nullify the Bill of Rights....which ammends the original Constitution.


62 posted on 01/22/2010 11:09:10 AM PST by Eagle Eye (The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.)
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because even sales of firearms that don't cross state lines have an effect on interstate commerce.

and Globull Warming causes freezing cold winters and the check is in the mail and i won't...

72 posted on 01/22/2010 3:08:53 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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the tenth amendment....if it is upheld by the courts will keep America, America.

If not upheld? it may mean the time for the blood of patriots and tyrants.


73 posted on 01/22/2010 3:20:31 PM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: 11th Commandment; 17th Miss Regt; 2001convSVT; 2ndDivisionVet; A_Former_Democrat; ...

Thanks Still Thinking! This of course bears watching. Just wondering out loud(so to speak), why is the State of Montana not a party to this suit? I’m sure there’s a reasonable explanation but it doesn’t hit me at the moment.


76 posted on 01/22/2010 4:15:54 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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The federal government must be reigned in. The interstate commerce clause in the Constitution was NEVER intended to give the federal government virtually unlimited power.


78 posted on 01/22/2010 4:40:49 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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So the feds have surrendered to the states on the marijuana front but are gearing up to stuff the states on guns.

The feds apparently want a society of placid doped-up unarmed adult children. Easier to control.

88 posted on 01/22/2010 7:50:52 PM PST by behzinlea
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Long ago, when I had first gotten here to FR I had commented on some firearm related thread that I thought each state should just start producing its own weapons "with something like: For Use Only In Montana" stamped on the barrel to attempt to circumvent federal laws.

Only a few fellow "rights extremists" agreed but most inferred that I was an idiot for thinking it could ever happen...

Yet, here we are.

Its a nice bit of fantasy to think that there is a small chance that I may have said something that was seen by someone of political significance that made them seriously consider the issue.

95 posted on 01/22/2010 11:34:09 PM PST by gnarledmaw (Obama: Evincing a Design since 2009)
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The Feds counter that it is a valid exercise of commerse power because even sales of firearms that don't cross state lines have an effect on interstate commerce.

...which is complete horse manure, of course. This could be another fun exercise for the Supreme Court: restore the First Amendment this week, restore the Second Amendment next week.

96 posted on 01/22/2010 11:43:26 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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