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Scott Brown winning in Massachusetts will help Democrats in the long run (vanity & a symposium)
The Vanity Post | January 20, 2010 | Me

Posted on 01/20/2010 6:16:01 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative

Scott Brown will HELP Democrats, because....

1. They will be forced to abandon their highly unpopular leftist agenda. Yes, the old liberal bulls may still push for certain things, but ultimately, the votes won't materialize.

2. Dems will turn to "jobs" and the "economy". They will spend the next 10 months talking jobs and economy instead of healthcare and cap n trade. Their proposals will not please conservatives (targeted tax credits, extended jobless benefits) but they'll play well with the public at large.....at least this kind of stuff doesn't anger people like ObamaCare and cap n trade does.

3. If Virginia and New Jersey didn't wake the Dems up, Scott Brown will. They are not going to let any other candidate be unprepared for a tough re-election. Even so-called "safe" seats like Barbara Boxer and Evan Bayh will now be mounting a formidable re-election team. They're not taking anything for granted at this point. Harry Reid is probably too far gone to recover, but the "marginal" seats that Republicans are counting on winning just got a LOT tougher.

Please add your thoughts, FRiends.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: buzzkill; democrats; massachusetts; obama; scottbrown
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1 posted on 01/20/2010 6:16:03 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Time will tell. Pelosi is still ranting about getting health care through one way or another. It’s the talk of a totally insane person, but she is not without influence and power. I am crossing my fingers that the Dims start pushing amnesty for illegals. Talk about pulling the pin from a grenade! I seriously think they’ll give it a big push and then sit back and wonder how on earth the evil Republicans managed to take back Congress.


2 posted on 01/20/2010 6:19:52 AM PST by ChocChipCookie (God to Obama: Don't think I'm not keepin' track. Brother.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Clinton saw the light and moved to the center after the 1994 elections. Obama and his cronies aren’t that smart. They’ll still try to ram through Obamacare, and pay the price for it for years to come.


3 posted on 01/20/2010 6:20:22 AM PST by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

“Even so-called “safe” seats like Barbara Boxer and Evan Bayh will now be mounting a formidable re-election team...”
“If you try to defend everything you defend nothing.” Frederick the Great.
Let them try. We will defeat them in detail.


4 posted on 01/20/2010 6:20:38 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

This will only go one of two ways...

Peacefully...

Or otherwise...

I pray it’s the former...

But I’m fully prepared for the latter...

That’s about as plain as I can put it...


5 posted on 01/20/2010 6:20:58 AM PST by Crim
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To: St. Louis Conservative

“If Virginia and New Jersey didn’t wake the Dems up, Scott Brown will.”

I agree for the most part with 1 and 2. But Dems are liberals, and liberals have mental issues. There are many of them that still won’t get it. They’ll blame Coakley, they’ll blame the WH for not helping enough, but they won’t understand, people don’t want their Marxist agenda.

They don’t think it’s a problem with what they’re trying to do, they think they just didn’t communicate it properly.

Republicans didn’t win yesterday, incumbancy lost. In a sense, the Democrats were the incumbants for that seat. ALL incumbants need to look out in November. It seems the people in Mass. share my disgust with politicians who think they are rulers, not elected servants.


6 posted on 01/20/2010 6:22:26 AM PST by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

If the house next door catches fire, best to let it burn uncontrollably to the ground, lest the fire department arrives and puts the fire out, leaving the house to possibly catch fire again in the future.


7 posted on 01/20/2010 6:22:30 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Ohhh....I think they have a whole lot more damaging bills in their little bag of tricks.....the mask is off, too late to find cover. They and their agenda are DONE! Now we have some breathing room to clean up our own house in prep for the November elections. Let's get some Conservatives in the race to balance out the RINOs.
8 posted on 01/20/2010 6:23:13 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: St. Louis Conservative

There is a strain of tragic inevitability in most conservative thought.

Thus we can lament with the esteemable Mark Steyn that Obamacare’s passage will cement our future at least as left as a social democracy. Or we can decry with the esteemable Brit Hume how the stoppage of Obamacare benefits the Democrats now and into the future.

Certainly we can all regret that the buildup to and denouement of last year’s financial crisis has perhaps forever altered the role of the dollar—and its associated American influence—in the global economy.

Or we can think like Reagan and see our way to a better future based on renewing the liberty and limited government principles on which our country was founded.


9 posted on 01/20/2010 6:24:02 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Demwits will just have to become more convincing liars.


10 posted on 01/20/2010 6:24:14 AM PST by Dewey Revoltnow
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To: St. Louis Conservative

1. I don’t think so
2. Talking and results are two different things. All Obama has ever run is his mouth...
3. I don’t think so.


11 posted on 01/20/2010 6:24:48 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Crim

Thats my philosophy. Ballots first. Bullets as a last resort.


12 posted on 01/20/2010 6:25:50 AM PST by Dewey Revoltnow
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Your premise is based on the false assumption that 21st Century democrats are reasonable people. They are not.

This was a disaster for the democrats, but they are so full of themselves that they will not recognize it until they are completely driven from power. Coakley still got the lion's share of the democrat vote. It was the independents (people who basically are satisfied with the status quo) who rebelled against the democrats.

The democrat label has been tarnished by the three stooges, Obama, Reid and Pelosi. Until they dump those three from leadership roles in their party, they are doomed. They have frightened people who generally pay no attention to politics. That fear will last until the democrats are no longer in power and they can start worrying about the Republicans again.

13 posted on 01/20/2010 6:27:00 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

The problem is that the Dems are so far left that they would commit political Hare Kari just to get what they want.

They want and they believe that UHC will be the new Social Security. Touching it will become, in their view, political death.

In those respects they will tell some not safe dems to vote against while still maintaining the majority vote in the house.

They won’t stop until they are either fully defeated in elections or they get what they want.


14 posted on 01/20/2010 6:28:33 AM PST by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: ChocChipCookie
Enough Democrats will be fearful of "losing face" that they'll continue allowing their leadership to take them into the depths of insanity.

After the losses in November, when we take over Congress, we must move immediately to replace Obama and his lackeys ~ no more shilly-shallying like we did with Bill Clinton. That stuff is so outre!

Then, the Democrat politicians must be brought before a people's tribunal and found guilty of crimes against humanity.

New life will be given to Gitmo for many years thereafter.

15 posted on 01/20/2010 6:29:17 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: OCCASparky

Bill Clinton wasn’t a Marxist. He just wanted to pick up chicks. Obama wants to implement Rahm Emmanuel’s The Plan.


16 posted on 01/20/2010 6:30:23 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Hubris

Dementia

Megalomania

The above may have more influence in the Democrat's chances in 2010. At least that has been the trend.

17 posted on 01/20/2010 6:31:08 AM PST by Jagdgewehr (Okay California....Massachusetts did it....what about you?)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Even if you are correct for the most part in all your assumptions, that is not necessarily a bad thing. If killing health care reform makes the dems stronger, so be it. If it moves them to the center we are still better off than having King Hussein and his Boyars rule over us as tyrants.

Beside, even if the dems "talk jobs", they will not do anything to make it happen. They will never enact sweeping tax cuts. Talking about jobs does nothing for people who are still out of work.

18 posted on 01/20/2010 6:31:46 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Scotsman will be Free
...We will defeat them in detail.

A cool military term. I like it... (*smile*)

19 posted on 01/20/2010 6:32:15 AM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Luke 22:36 "Then said he unto them...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.")
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To: St. Louis Conservative

You are assuming Obama is Bill Clinton. He is not. Also he has managed to do something that Clinton never did which is position himself right between his base who will now push him even more to pass the bill or try to get rid of the filibuster. They are going to try to pass jobs bills but the problem is that Obama’s ego is too large to let him pass a bill that isn’t chock full of new spending and liberal regulations. Obama hasn’t been helped by this election because he won’t respond in the way he needs to win and no matter what he does between now and Nov he has did something that Bill Clinton never managed to do and that is totally alienated the independent vote. You are right, he does have an opportunity to change course but truthfully he is too arrogant to take it. He is right now with his team trying to find a clever way push health care through as is. The difference now is that the fractures in his party are growing and the only question is how many will escape Obamaville political alive. Every indicator suggests he is going double down. Also it is too late we have nearly every Democrat voting for two very unpopular pieces of legistlation. Is he going to let his agenda die or modify it to be innocuous? No he is going to continue the leftist march. He still believes the hype. He is Obama.


20 posted on 01/20/2010 6:33:53 AM PST by Maelstorm (We are umbilicaled to a parasitic beast that feeds off one man so to enslave another to dependency.)
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