Posted on 01/19/2010 10:35:52 PM PST by neverdem
don’t forget freddie/fannie
http://www.hud.gov/news/speeches/presremarks.cfm
“And so, therefore, I’ve called — yesterday, I called upon the private sector to help us and help the home buyers. We need more capital in the private markets for first-time, low-income buyers. And I’m proud to report that Fannie Mae has heard the call and, as I understand, it’s about $440 billion over a period of time. They’ve used their influence to create that much capital available for the type of home buyer we’re talking about here. It’s in their charter; it now needs to be implemented. Freddie Mac is interested in helping. I appreciate both of those agencies providing the underpinnings of good capital.”
Yeah...this one wasn’t very effective. Unlike the libertarian who bled just enough votes from Ensign in 1998 to ensure Harry Reid would stay in office.
Of course, because everyone knows that liberals can't be voted out in their well established blue state fortresses. /s
Liberals don't grasp what's going on and yet, ironically, they will claim everyone else is too stupid to know what's good for them and only the "intellectual elite" liberals can think for us.
Worth noting. Tne conservative tidal wave is actually without a party to speak of and the RATS will do anything.
ANYTHING! So keep your powder dry America.
Status quo republicans are no better than democrats. Something new will be required. Something significantly more conservative.
And the financial/cultural catastrophe that 2010 will almost certainly be will help bring them in.
The internet has neutered them. Dan Rather may be able to counsel them.
This is a very common tactic now used by the left to delute the massive corruption thats in our face today. They like to pose as conservative moles on forums and spout, "Throw all the bums out!" Truth is that if the GOP even attempted a fraction of what the Dems are doing the MSN would be shreiking 24/7
There is a great amount of truth in the article posed above. Namely how easily liberals can divide up conservatives on certain pet issues. I see it all the time on a local political forum I participate in. The favorite issues of moles there are gays, guns, immigration, and abortion. (The latter to go after Brown) Sad to say these tactics are highly effective in discrediting republicans who don't line up 100% with these issues but would never the less shrink government and keep it out of our lives.
Inversely my Father in Law is a diehard democrat who is an avid gun collector and a union coal miner all his life. Over 50 guns in his house but he would crawl over broken glass to vote for the dems. It's well known how the left feels about coal and firearms but he will hear none of it. That is what we are up against.
If we are not careful, they will defeat us again. Not by ideas and debate but from within.
No, that was the Libertarian party strategy, not the libertarian strategy. The Libertarian party is a joke, and libertarians are not monolithic.
The author is correct to point out that the winning coalition is one that includes libertarians. Conservatives committed to free market principles will find that they can attract libertarian voters.
What have libertarians ever done to help the GOP? They ever act as a magnet to draw the party to free market principles? They ever mobilize to get behind such a free market Republican? I’ve never seen anything of note. All I’ve seen is whining about the GOP and supporting LP candidates who bleed votes from the GOP.
I’m just sayin’ there’s a difference between Libertarian and libertarian. All LPers might be libertarian, but not all libertarians are LPers. Many libertarians support GOPers, but only when there is enough common ground.
Reagan, for example, was popular with many libertarians because he was a defender of the free market. McCain wasn’t popular with libertarians because he never met a problem he didn’t think more government could fix.
The winning coalition is to run GOPers more like Reagan, less like McCain.
The ‘Libertarian’ the Southern Avenger is of the Libert’s that always beats on R’s while letting the radical D’s go unscathed.....I call these types ‘Leftytarian’.
We need to fit some of the ideas from this thread into the "RINO Free America" campaign, IMHO.
We will not be free again as a nation YES FREE!, until we are rid of every last Obama Kool Aid drinking natoionalist socialist Utopian. in Congress.
Until then, we will have to keep guarding our liberties and the US COnstitution. The FIGHT has JUST begun!
The SCOTT that was heard around the world.
Tell Howard DEAN, Vermonts Village Idiot, we are coming for you Obamoids! We will use the ballot box, Howard, and you can thank your lucky stars for that!You would not like the traditional American remedies for tyranny Howie.LOL.
“a crusade based on emotion and held together only by opposition to single issues cannot succeed”
The issues moving yesterday’s election were many, not single: the health care takeover, government presumptuousness, over-taxing, destroying the national economy, disgust with Massachusetts socialized medicine, revulsion toward Coakley - maybe even revolt against Barack Hussein Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid - nothing single here.
It didn't work for Coakley. Politics may be evolving.
Forcibly? Easier said than done. The best way to do it is to get involved in the primary process and in the local party hierarchy. You don't forcibly take over a political party.
If our tea-parties translate into populist vote for Conservatives in Primaries, this is good, but in any event, our tea-parties have to take it to the next organizational level and that means getting pushy with our influence in the Republican Party.
You are confusing the Tea Parties with conservatism. There is plenty of common ground, but many in the Tea Party movement are not social conservatives. There are libertarians, independents, and even some Dems. This is a broad based movement that has no real national leadership. It is a grassroots movement that wants to reduce the role of government in our lives and to promote fiscal responsibility so that our children are not saddled with enormous debt. The US is the world's largest debtor nation and we are bankrupt. It is up to the Reps to embrace many of the Tea Party principles so that they represent a true alternative to the Dems and not just be Dem lite.
Great thought.
Taken to conclusion, based on attitudes posted on Free Republic, sanctimonious conservatives will flee the Tea Party movement because it is impure.
Precisely. Unfortunately, people are confusing the Tea Party movement with conservatism. The Tea Party is based on some conservative principles, but it is so broad that many members would not “qualify” to be Reps or conservatives. Basically, people are unhappy about the direction of the country and the disconnect between the people and its representatives. The clarion call is, “Do you hear us now?”
I think The People have been REAwakened. I want to stay optimistic that they will see through the smoke & mirrors. They have been arses for a year, people want them gone & are hungry now. Pray hard it stays that way! Reid will be gone. My only worry is the progressives in CA. But the rest of the nation wants a Change. They want to show the power does NOT lie within in this admin. I feel the Tea Party is just getting started, so hang on & go for the ride -g-
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