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The Coming Democrat Counteroffensive
American Thinker ^ | January 20, 2010 | Steve McCann

Posted on 01/19/2010 10:35:52 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem

don’t forget freddie/fannie
http://www.hud.gov/news/speeches/presremarks.cfm
“And so, therefore, I’ve called — yesterday, I called upon the private sector to help us and help the home buyers. We need more capital in the private markets for first-time, low-income buyers. And I’m proud to report that Fannie Mae has heard the call and, as I understand, it’s about $440 billion over a period of time. They’ve used their influence to create that much capital available for the type of home buyer we’re talking about here. It’s in their charter; it now needs to be implemented. Freddie Mac is interested in helping. I appreciate both of those agencies providing the underpinnings of good capital.”


41 posted on 01/20/2010 12:27:48 AM PST by ari-freedom (Obamacare: nananana nananana hey hey hey goodbye!)
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To: ari-freedom

Yeah...this one wasn’t very effective. Unlike the libertarian who bled just enough votes from Ensign in 1998 to ensure Harry Reid would stay in office.


42 posted on 01/20/2010 12:32:30 AM PST by Brugmansian
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To: neverdem
The Left will be confident in the reelection of their own congressmen in sufficient number to maintain control of the levers of power in Washington.

Of course, because everyone knows that liberals can't be voted out in their well established blue state fortresses. /s

Liberals don't grasp what's going on and yet, ironically, they will claim everyone else is too stupid to know what's good for them and only the "intellectual elite" liberals can think for us.

43 posted on 01/20/2010 12:33:30 AM PST by highlander_UW (There's a storm coming - little kid at a Mexican gas station in The Terminator)
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To: neverdem

Worth noting. Tne conservative tidal wave is actually without a party to speak of and the RATS will do anything.
ANYTHING! So keep your powder dry America.


44 posted on 01/20/2010 12:37:16 AM PST by rrrod
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To: neverdem

Status quo republicans are no better than democrats. Something new will be required. Something significantly more conservative.

And the financial/cultural catastrophe that 2010 will almost certainly be will help bring them in.


45 posted on 01/20/2010 12:39:10 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: gibtx2

The internet has neutered them. Dan Rather may be able to counsel them.


46 posted on 01/20/2010 12:39:49 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Post Toasties
The author makes a number of essential points. One of the chief among them is to discount the stated viewpoint of any nitwit or Leftist mole who says there’s no difference between the Republican and Democrat Parties.

This is a very common tactic now used by the left to delute the massive corruption thats in our face today. They like to pose as conservative moles on forums and spout, "Throw all the bums out!" Truth is that if the GOP even attempted a fraction of what the Dems are doing the MSN would be shreiking 24/7

There is a great amount of truth in the article posed above. Namely how easily liberals can divide up conservatives on certain pet issues. I see it all the time on a local political forum I participate in. The favorite issues of moles there are gays, guns, immigration, and abortion. (The latter to go after Brown) Sad to say these tactics are highly effective in discrediting republicans who don't line up 100% with these issues but would never the less shrink government and keep it out of our lives.

Inversely my Father in Law is a diehard democrat who is an avid gun collector and a union coal miner all his life. Over 50 guns in his house but he would crawl over broken glass to vote for the dems. It's well known how the left feels about coal and firearms but he will hear none of it. That is what we are up against.

If we are not careful, they will defeat us again. Not by ideas and debate but from within.

47 posted on 01/20/2010 12:40:24 AM PST by vlad335
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To: kabar
The Tea Party movement is a non-hierarchical confederation of many local grassroots groups. It has some basic principles and beliefs that the GOP must gravitate towards or face the prospect of an eventual third party movement.

While I will agree that it's not in the best interest of the Tea-Parties to join RINOs on their terms, I disagree with the notion that somehow RINOS will ask the tea-parties to take over the Republican Party or change their governing philosophy to suit grass-roots Conservatives.

No third parties. A third party would take at least 20 years to build and we don't have the time. It would only fracture the Center-Right coalition and give us nothing but leftist government for the foreseeable future. It would play right into rat hands. That is why those trolls who constantly say that there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats must be repudiated and marginalized. A 3rd Party would destroy any kind of coalition we could create to save our nation. We don't have the luxury of time right now against the Cloward-Piven Alinksy-ites.

What Grass-Roots Conservatives need to do is forcibly take over the Republican Party, as the author suggested, and then pull the moderates into our tent. This is the only coalition that can win and give us a government that is tolerable, at least more so than the OBAMA-nation that we have now. If our tea-parties translate into populist vote for Conservatives in Primaries, this is good, but in any event, our tea-parties have to take it to the next organizational level and that means getting pushy with our influence in the Republican Party.
48 posted on 01/20/2010 1:00:17 AM PST by lmr (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: Brugmansian
The libertarian strategy Tuesday was to attempt to siphon off enough votes from Brown to ensure a Coakley win.

No, that was the Libertarian party strategy, not the libertarian strategy. The Libertarian party is a joke, and libertarians are not monolithic.

The author is correct to point out that the winning coalition is one that includes libertarians. Conservatives committed to free market principles will find that they can attract libertarian voters.

49 posted on 01/20/2010 1:03:47 AM PST by Swing_Thought (The doorstep to the temple of wisdom is a knowledge of our own ignorance. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Swing_Thought

What have libertarians ever done to help the GOP? They ever act as a magnet to draw the party to free market principles? They ever mobilize to get behind such a free market Republican? I’ve never seen anything of note. All I’ve seen is whining about the GOP and supporting LP candidates who bleed votes from the GOP.


50 posted on 01/20/2010 1:27:57 AM PST by Brugmansian
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To: Brugmansian

I’m just sayin’ there’s a difference between Libertarian and libertarian. All LPers might be libertarian, but not all libertarians are LPers. Many libertarians support GOPers, but only when there is enough common ground.

Reagan, for example, was popular with many libertarians because he was a defender of the free market. McCain wasn’t popular with libertarians because he never met a problem he didn’t think more government could fix.

The winning coalition is to run GOPers more like Reagan, less like McCain.


51 posted on 01/20/2010 1:52:58 AM PST by Swing_Thought (The doorstep to the temple of wisdom is a knowledge of our own ignorance. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Brugmansian

The ‘Libertarian’ the Southern Avenger is of the Libert’s that always beats on R’s while letting the radical D’s go unscathed.....I call these types ‘Leftytarian’.


52 posted on 01/20/2010 2:42:58 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: MestaMachine
Ping!

We need to fit some of the ideas from this thread into the "RINO Free America" campaign, IMHO.

53 posted on 01/20/2010 3:11:30 AM PST by RonDog
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To: STARWISE

We will not be free again as a nation YES FREE!, until we are rid of every last Obama Kool Aid drinking natoionalist socialist Utopian. in Congress.

Until then, we will have to keep guarding our liberties and the US COnstitution. The FIGHT has JUST begun!

The SCOTT that was heard around the world.

Tell Howard DEAN, Vermonts Village Idiot, we are coming for you Obamoids! We will use the ballot box, Howard, and you can thank your lucky stars for that!You would not like the traditional American remedies for tyranny Howie.LOL.


54 posted on 01/20/2010 4:02:24 AM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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To: neverdem

“a crusade based on emotion and held together only by opposition to single issues cannot succeed”

The issues moving yesterday’s election were many, not single: the health care takeover, government presumptuousness, over-taxing, destroying the national economy, disgust with Massachusetts socialized medicine, revulsion toward Coakley - maybe even revolt against Barack Hussein Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid - nothing single here.


55 posted on 01/20/2010 5:32:39 AM PST by RoadTest (The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple. Ps. 119:130)
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To: neverdem
Everyone is aghast that the Democrats and the liberal media have employed a base and vile vulgarism not only to describe the activities of those who are sincerely concerned for the country's future, but also to denigrate the individuals, their motives, appearance, and social status. This tactic is used because it works.

It didn't work for Coakley. Politics may be evolving.

56 posted on 01/20/2010 5:39:34 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: lmr
What Grass-Roots Conservatives need to do is forcibly take over the Republican Party, as the author suggested, and then pull the moderates into our tent.

Forcibly? Easier said than done. The best way to do it is to get involved in the primary process and in the local party hierarchy. You don't forcibly take over a political party.

If our tea-parties translate into populist vote for Conservatives in Primaries, this is good, but in any event, our tea-parties have to take it to the next organizational level and that means getting pushy with our influence in the Republican Party.

You are confusing the Tea Parties with conservatism. There is plenty of common ground, but many in the Tea Party movement are not social conservatives. There are libertarians, independents, and even some Dems. This is a broad based movement that has no real national leadership. It is a grassroots movement that wants to reduce the role of government in our lives and to promote fiscal responsibility so that our children are not saddled with enormous debt. The US is the world's largest debtor nation and we are bankrupt. It is up to the Reps to embrace many of the Tea Party principles so that they represent a true alternative to the Dems and not just be Dem lite.

57 posted on 01/20/2010 6:38:41 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Great thought.

Taken to conclusion, based on attitudes posted on Free Republic, sanctimonious conservatives will flee the Tea Party movement because it is impure.


58 posted on 01/20/2010 6:45:15 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. Taxes will give them a stake in society)
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To: bert

Precisely. Unfortunately, people are confusing the Tea Party movement with conservatism. The Tea Party is based on some conservative principles, but it is so broad that many members would not “qualify” to be Reps or conservatives. Basically, people are unhappy about the direction of the country and the disconnect between the people and its representatives. The clarion call is, “Do you hear us now?”


59 posted on 01/20/2010 6:58:17 AM PST by kabar
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To: STARWISE; LucyT

I think The People have been REAwakened. I want to stay optimistic that they will see through the smoke & mirrors. They have been arses for a year, people want them gone & are hungry now. Pray hard it stays that way! Reid will be gone. My only worry is the progressives in CA. But the rest of the nation wants a Change. They want to show the power does NOT lie within in this admin. I feel the Tea Party is just getting started, so hang on & go for the ride -g-


60 posted on 01/20/2010 11:38:20 AM PST by JustPiper (“NO lawyers to defend terrorists!!!” ~Senator Scott)
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