Bill On Candidates' Citizenship Is Laughable
. . . . So "they" say. ... (Who are "they"?)
[Thanks, tutstar.]
Posted on 01/19/2010 11:50:04 AM PST by steve-b
A proposal to compel the Arizona secretary of state to independently verify the eligibility of every presidential candidate is downright laughable, considering just how little the state has cared about this issue in the past.
Capitol Media Services reported earlier this week that Rep. Judy Burges, R-Skull Valley, wants to require any presidential candidate to prove he or she is a "natural born citizen," as outlined in the Constitution. Even more, the secretary of state would have to certify with independent research that each candidate is eligible, or refuse to add their names to election ballots....
Burges isn't motivated by any noble intent to clean up Arizona's participation in presidential elections. Her comments to Capitol Media Services make it clear she's sympathetic to the conspiracy theory that President Barack Obama isn't a natural born citizen, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Obama's situation highlights why the state Legislature should be extremely cautious if it wades into this issue. Dozens of lawsuits were filed around the country, each raising even crazier explanations for how he couldn't possibly be born in Hawaii or he somehow renounced his citizenship by attending elementary school in Indonesia. Every single challenge has been dismissed. But the issue still hasn't disappeared after a year into Obama's presidency.
We wonder how much it would cost the secretary of state in time and money to independently certify every candidate that might come forward in 2012?
(Excerpt) Read more at eastvalleytribune.com ...
The author seen the overwhelming evidence to the contrary? I haven’t, I would like to see this, it would be nice to see. We would all like to see it. The author should have put it in the article and added real substance to the writing.
That’s a strawman, and I’m certainly not suggesting that that should be accepted as removing the NBC-ness of a candidate. American does not RECOGNISE citizenship granted in that manner. It does however recognise citizenship conferred by parents, and by naturalisation.
Are you seriously suggesting that if a Presidential candidate went and got naturalized as an Iranian citizen they would still be eligible?!
Btw, employer is switching insurance companies. They need a copy of my BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Imagine that!
“If nominated for President in 2011, I will not run. If elected I will not serve. If asked to prove my citizenship status I will feel the pain of every illegal US resident and produce my Matricula Consular card.” - Obama
We need to be careful with jargon. The requirement should be for a clerk-certified copy of the signed original birth certificate and any subsequent attachments and modifications thereto. There shoud be a specific prohibition of computer-generated "certifications".
I would also include requirement for the candidate to sign a special power of attorney, giving the state the authority to request the certified copies directly from the alleged state of birth.
Obama, by his own admission, was a British citizen at birth, therefore he is not, and cannot ever be a Natural Born Citizen, and therefore he was never, is not currently, and cannot ever be eligible to the office of US president.
Your ridiculous "citizenship by fiat" is a non-starter, regardless how many times you post it.
Because you say so? Thanks for clearing that up for us.
The one has nothing to do with the other. Born to a citizen on US soil = “natural born citizen”.
Yea, I wouldn’t sign my name to that editorial either...
Well, if I decide to run, I doubt it would cost her more that five minutes of her time and the cost of a xerox copy.
ML/NJ
In the case of BHO there is no need to chase wild geese i. e. birth and other records. BHO has admitted his father was a Kenyan and as such subject to British rule at the time. Embedded in our Constitution,Article I Section 8 by words and referenced as a complete document without ambiguity ,is the Law of Nations. The Founding Fathers were versed in law and especially the Law of Nations. This defines a natural born citizen as one born in the country of parentS who are it’s citizenS. The FFs did not want to leave a need to define NBC as to POTUSA.If only Congress would live up to the oath to protect and defend the Constitution i.e. duty number 9 BHO would be gone and punished along with coherts who allowed his usurpation.
“A proposal to compel the Arizona secretary of state to independently verify the eligibility of every presidential candidate is downright laughable, considering just how little the state has cared about this issue in the past.”
Don’t you mean “downright sensible,” because the law would make them start caring about it?
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Bill On Candidates' Citizenship Is Laughable
. . . . So "they" say. ... (Who are "they"?)
[Thanks, tutstar.]
What overwhelming evidence? Obama hasn’t offered any evidence AT ALL.
No, it’s not laughable. It’s down right serious. Everyone needs to know the person running for the highest office in the land is a natural born citizen.
If the Sec. of State doesn’t know what that means maybe the courts can explain it to them. I’m sure the SOS’s would have *standing*.
A original certified birth certificate traceable in vital records. Any government records would show thumbprints like the DMV, property records etc. Drivers license. If we use everify for normal run of the mill employment then our POTUS can pass also.
It costs nothing to search microfiche of birth certificates and I am sure S.O.S would not be charged to get copies of records from government entities.
My guess is some feel they do not qualify also. This is not laughable. The fact it has never been done before is laughable. Our former presidents have been known. We knew them and their families, etc. Many had military records and we heard stories from friends and enemies on most.
Obama came out of nowhere and he hid his whole past. His qualifications are two books he (ayers) wrote.
Now is the time this needs to done to each candidate. You have to ask yourself, if not willing to do this what are they hiding? If not willing to do this, how bad do they want C.I.C? If I wanted the job my whole life would be laid out for the people. I would want their respect and trust.
Which parent was a citizen? Do you have a link to their BC?
You trying to tell us something? a freeper as future prez?
I do even better than that. I would show family BC's and genealogy 200 years back. A Mr Washington who was black might seem a little odd but he was ours.
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