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Briefing by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs (why unions are exempted from Cadillac tax)
White House web site ^ | January 15, 2010 | Robert Gibbs

Posted on 01/17/2010 8:31:54 AM PST by reaganaut1

Q. ... [W]hy is it fair for individuals who have so-called Cadillac plans that have been negotiated through collective bargaining agreements to be exempt until 2018 from the proposed excise tax, whereas those who might be in the exact same situation but are not part of labor unions -- even if they want to be and their company resisted, or many they're in right-to-work states -- why is it fair for one group to not get a tax and others to --

MR. GIBBS: I would say this. I've asked to see what numbers they can run. We're talking about an exceedingly small number of people I think that the premise of your impact would impact.

Q. It's a big tax, though, 40 percent.

MR. GIBBS: Well, it's a 40 percent tax on the insurance company for the excess of their policy over the threshold, right? So the new threshold is at $24,000, right? So --

Q. But if it wasn't a big deal, the labor unions wouldn't have pushed so hard to be exempt from it until 2018.

MR. GIBBS: No, I understand. What I'm just -- it's not a 40 percent tax. It's a 40 percent tax above a threshold on an insurance company, not on an individual or a family.

Q. Well, I meant it's not an inconsiderable tax.

MR. GIBBS: I would say that obviously there is -- just like there is for the insurance fee, just as there are for fees on manufacturers and other businesses, there's a phase-in for this fee over a five-year period of time, just as there is, again, on -- the administration did not believe it made any sense to treat business and industry and insurance companies different than they treat workers.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cadillactax; healthcare; healthinsurance; healthinsurancetax; robertgibbs; taxes; unions
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To: reaganaut1

MR. GIBBS: We believe the agreement is structured in a way that is fair, just as it is fair to other aspects of the bill that have to be phased in.


No nothing about raising tax is fair, it is socialism, unions are socialist, and in my opinion Obama is socialist and you must be too.


21 posted on 01/17/2010 9:03:31 AM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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To: Fido969

Note to self:

Buy more ammo....lot’s more


22 posted on 01/17/2010 9:04:31 AM PST by is_is (VPD of Sgt Dan, Former 2/5 MARINE - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: notaliberal

23 posted on 01/17/2010 9:13:47 AM PST by paulycy (The Liberals' DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE CRIMES.)
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To: bigbob
Gibbs cannot utter a single coherent sentence.

By design, of course. He's an automated random phrase generator. Unintelligible. Which is precisely why Obama, Emanuel, and Axelrod keep this jackass doofus around. They have no desire or intent to illuminate anything.

Equally galling is that the press acted as if they were following this wholesale gibberish from Gibbs. They could not have followed it, because there was nothing there to be understood. Just once I'd like someone in the press to to say, "I have no idea what you just said, and neither do you."

24 posted on 01/17/2010 9:18:12 AM PST by Eroteme
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To: reaganaut1
We're talking about an exceedingly small number of people I think that the premise of your impact would impact.

BS. If it affects so few people, why have the tax at all? Or why not give the same deal the unions got to the "exceedingly small" number of people affected?

Gibbs is a lier for Obama and not a very good one.

25 posted on 01/17/2010 9:23:50 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: EyeGuy
If you'll allow me: That should be, ". . . a hollow, unaccomplished affirmative action Ivy League strutting peacock . . ."
26 posted on 01/17/2010 9:28:04 AM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: nhwingut

Just so everybody understands: “cadillac plan” = the plan that EVERYBODY in the private (non-government) sector will need in order to get decent health care and avoid long lines once Mengelecare takes effect.

Bend over and grease up - - here comes Ubama.


27 posted on 01/17/2010 9:28:57 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: BigBobber

those reporters were talking all over each other...gotta be because it effects them..


28 posted on 01/17/2010 9:30:42 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Lawgvr1955

I think if this passes, a class action suit among all “non-union” employees needs to be enacted pronto.


29 posted on 01/17/2010 9:32:31 AM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: paulycy

You are talented, sir!


30 posted on 01/17/2010 9:34:55 AM PST by notaliberal (Palin supporter)
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To: The_Reader_David

[I have a modest proposal: we (the citizenry) form the American Anti-Tax Union. ]

That is actually brilliant. If unions get special treatment, we just all become union.


31 posted on 01/17/2010 9:35:28 AM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: notaliberal

Well thank you. Use it in good health. :0)


32 posted on 01/17/2010 9:36:57 AM PST by paulycy (The Liberals' DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE CRIMES.)
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To: hocndoc

LOL!

You probably won’t believe me, but I originally included that in my first draft, but I didn’t want to overwhelm with too many adjectives.

Zero and his white-America hating wife, are THE exemplars of the racist, unjust, affirmative action society we are stuck with today.


33 posted on 01/17/2010 9:38:49 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: reaganaut1

Laws by their nature must apply to all. A “law” that applies to only certain members of the population is an invalid law.


34 posted on 01/17/2010 9:45:10 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: paulycy

I LOVE IT!!! We gotta send um to Gibbs....sure he deserves to know exactly how creepy his lying has become.


35 posted on 01/17/2010 9:48:19 AM PST by Republic (Get the uhbama's, reid's, pelosi's dirty greedy fingers out of our personal medical care!)
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To: reaganaut1
Is it just me, or is there something incredibly creepy and down right filthy not to mention un-democratic and eerily thugish about a group of politicians WHO ARE framing a NATIONAL HEALTH CARE BILL AND are using AND rewarding SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS THAT have SUPPORTED SAID POLITICIANS IN THE DEMO-RAT PARTY ??

Does it GET any SICKER? Or more unfair to the rest of AMERICA?

We have got to throw these immoral DIRTBAGS out of office. ASAP!

36 posted on 01/17/2010 1:09:27 PM PST by Republic (Get the uhbama's, reid's, pelosi's dirty greedy fingers out of our personal medical care!)
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