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The electronic run on banks nobody seemed to notice
The DC ^ | 01/15/10 | Mary Claire Kendall

Posted on 01/17/2010 7:22:01 AM PST by opentalk

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To: opentalk
08/18/08 was an inside job

(and Bush was not on the inside)


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

41 posted on 01/17/2010 8:27:33 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: opentalk

But the Fed is private, not part of the federal government.


42 posted on 01/17/2010 8:33:15 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: opentalk

Interesting is that there are no GOP Talk show hosts or Fox News even mentioning this.

And, I do not think this was done to smite Bush or cost McCain the election. I think this was done by the international financiers to get bailout money....the current Liberal Free Trade Globalist economy is tanking...and cannot sustain itself.

Note that Soros, Bush 41 and 43, the Clintons, Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, John McCain, Barack Obama, a large number of the DNC and GOP Congress....are all Liberal Free Trader Globalists....they think Globally instead of American when it comes to economics.

Until we rid ourselves of internationalism....we are always going to have these problems. If you are still supporting Liberal Free Trade Globalism and International Economics of any sort.....you tacitly approve such doings....and also, you are an Economic Anti-American


43 posted on 01/17/2010 8:36:14 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Nothing wrong with liking America....)
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To: Southack

You had the answers to whatever article you were reading.


44 posted on 01/17/2010 8:44:14 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Until we rid ourselves of internationalism....we are always going to have these problems

This may be part of the reason they are threaten by Sarah Palin. She has the ability to rally people behind serving America and not internationalism

45 posted on 01/17/2010 8:45:49 AM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk
Its your article so feel free to ping interested parties to this post: Federal Reseve Board - Freedom of Information Office
Excerpt links are live on link above ...

The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. § 552, generally provides that any person has a right of access to federal agency records, unless the records (or any portion of the records) are protected from disclosure by one of FOIA's nine exemptions or by one of three special law enforcement record exclusions.

The Federal Reserve Board (Board) maintains public and nonpublic records. Public records are available at the Board's conventional reading room and electronic reading room. A FOIA request is not required to obtain these materials.

The submission of a FOIA request is required to obtain nonpublic records. If you cannot locate the records or information you seek on the Board's web site, you may wish to file a FOIA request (making a request).

46 posted on 01/17/2010 9:07:33 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: y6162; All

> George Soros

That's just crazy talk < /sarc>

Just like the issue of $778 million ($150 million in September 2008) in campaign dollars that Obama received in 2008, much of it coming from 37,000 foreign sources, mostly through untraceable, one-time use cash gift cards (source Obama's Secret Campaign Cash: Has $63 Million Flowed from Foreign Sources?).

The FEC surely would have revealed a scandal by now, if only Obama hadn't been the first major presidential candidate in American history NOT to accept funds from the Presidential Election Campaign Funds ... and therefore NOT subject to any FEC investigation.

Foreign donations to Obama's campaign ... indeed.

KSM
Kowtow.jpg King A bow Obama bows in Shanghai

47 posted on 01/17/2010 9:11:31 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: homegroan

I believe it would be traceable and feel it would go right to the string pullers of the current admin. This crisis was probably created to set the stage for their manipulation of the financial industry. And GWB took the bait and set the ball rolling.


48 posted on 01/17/2010 9:11:52 AM PST by mcshot (Son of Liberty.)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Praise be to GOD!


49 posted on 01/17/2010 9:13:59 AM PST by mcshot (Son of Liberty.)
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To: opentalk

Is this connected to the stories about the Russians getting into our financial systems and stealing billions?


50 posted on 01/17/2010 9:21:59 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: MHGinTN
But the Fed is private, not part of the federal government.

See post #46, also there was a Bloomberg reporter that filed FOIA on missing tarp money, unfortunately, he died in November.

Mark Pittman, the award-winning investigative reporter whose fight to open the Federal Reserve to more scrutiny led Bloomberg News to sue the central bank and win,

Pittman’s push to open the Fed to more scrutiny resulted in an Aug. 24 victory in Manhattan Federal Court affirming the public’s right to know about the central bank’s more than $2 trillion in assistance to financial firms(Bloomberg Nov 30)

Not sure if it applies in this case. The way the Fed is fighting any attempt to be audited by congress, the more pressure the better. (IMHO)

51 posted on 01/17/2010 9:54:44 AM PST by opentalk
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To: BP2
first major presidential candidate in American history NOT to accept funds from the Presidential Election Campaign Funds ... and therefore NOT subject to any FEC investigation.

Foreign donations to Obama's campaign ... indeed.

It all seems so scripted.

52 posted on 01/17/2010 10:02:33 AM PST by opentalk
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To: freedom4me
let's not forget about the prediction of this event the March before....

bama was assumed to be the next president a year before the election.....remember the entire media followed him around the world well before the election....

the fix was in.....

53 posted on 01/17/2010 10:17:58 AM PST by cherry
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To: freedom4me; backhoe; TigersEye; Impy

Soros, Ayers, and some of Obama’s Islamo buddies perhaps? Heck, Chinese agents might have been part of it too. Putin? All of the above?

“Sure, it could be pure coincidence that exactly at 11 a.m. a wave of concerned investors all decided it was time to electronically withdraw their funds thus creating this crescendo drawdown effect setting in motion a worldwide panic. It could be coincidence. But, it’s doubtful. The fact that the identities of those who simultaneously decided to withdraw their money at 11 a.m. on Sep. 18, precipitating this panic, were never released, does lead one to question whether or not something sinister was at work.”


54 posted on 01/17/2010 10:26:57 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (2010 HOUSE RACES! Help everyone get the goods on their House Rats. See my profile.)
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To: ridesthemiles

I keep trying to see what effect the R A D I U M group brokerage had the run.

Seems they have all but dropped off the net, with the exception of thier energy sector stuff....


55 posted on 01/17/2010 10:44:26 AM PST by ASOC (In case of attack, tune to 640 kilocycles or 1240 kilocycles on your AM dial.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
“Sure, it could be pure coincidence that exactly at 11 a.m. a wave of concerned investors all decided it was time to electronically withdraw their funds thus creating this crescendo drawdown effect setting in motion a worldwide panic."

Well, I don't know about you, but I always make a point to withdraw all of my holdings each and every September 18th at 11:00 come hell or high water!

56 posted on 01/17/2010 10:53:18 AM PST by JDoutrider
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To: opentalk
And, if nothing had been done, Kanjorski revealed, “their estimation was that by two o’clock that afternoon, five and 1/2 trillion dollars would have been drawn out of the money market system of the United States

Which is why Bush is exactly right when he says that if he had done nothing we would be suffering depression right now instead of recession.

57 posted on 01/17/2010 11:05:30 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; opentalk

Here’s where I remember seeing references:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/02/tight-before-the-election-of-president-hussein-an-electronic-run-on-the-banks.html

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/02/9112008-catastrophic-financial-terrorist-attack-caused-economic-meltdown.html


58 posted on 01/17/2010 11:15:48 AM PST by backhoe (All Across America, the Lights are being relit again...)
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To: opentalk
This is one of those explanations that requires detail about finance and the peculiar financial instruments developed and marketed in great volume in recent years. Here goes.

The key event in the sudden, massive withdrawal of dollars from the US financial system was the sale of assets and withdrawals of cash by European institutions to meet the terms of dollar denominated derivative and financial insurance contracts such as CDOs (collateralized debt obligations) and various other types of guarantees.

In essence, such contracts require that when adverse events occur, payments must be made or set aside and readied for payment by the guarantor. Thus an ongoing or anticipated fall in the value of a particular asset class or an impairment of credit based on such assets requires guarantors to scramble to raise cash or cash equivalents.

Most all of these derivative and financial insurance contracts were ultimately based on or contingent on the value of supposedly high quality US mortgage debt. Many of these contracts were written in Europe with European guarantors and priced in dollars.

When the US and international financial markets recognized that the massive pile of US mortgage debt was deeply impaired in value, it suddenly triggered a wave of calls on guarantors and holders of that debt. As assets were sold to raise dollars, it led to a sharp spike in the demand for dollars and a fall in the price of equities and other assets pledged or sold.

Bear in mind that the other side of these deals was that Europeans were selling assets in return for dollars, with the dollar often holding or rising in value despite the wreckage on Wall Street and in the US banking system. On the net, there was no loss to the American economy in this spike in the demand for dollars, although we and the rest of the world have experienced severe economic and financial losses due to the wave of bad mortgage debt and excess risk built into the system.

As for the Fed, in the crisis it did what had to be done: pump out liquidity (more dollars) to keep the US and world financial system from collapsing. And Wall Street then used the crisis to scare and confuse President Bush and Congress into the bailout and slush fund known as TARP.

59 posted on 01/17/2010 11:28:03 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: paulycy
Something this big would be very visible to the right people. But they're not talking. Why is that, do you think?

With our electronic ability to track the movement of money by drug dealers and terrorists it is obvious we know who did what. If there were multiple people we may not know exactly who the ring leader was but we could easily surmise. So, the answer to your question is we don't want to reveal it because it would create a crisis of its own or there is little we can do about it so we don't want to say.

When you consider the history of where we are and how we got here I would go with a Pogo quote, "We have met the enemy and he is us."

The Community Reinvestment Act passed under Carter and re-energized under Clinton allowed the mortgage crisis to happen. ACORN and other Leftist activists basically forced the banks to make unwise loans.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac eagerly gobbled up the bad loans and the Democrats, primarily Barney Frank in the House and Chris Dodd in the Senate, stonewalled the Bush administration's attempts to stop the freight train.

The Democrats private investment firm, Goldman-Sachs, made tons of money packaging and selling bad loans. Moody's and the other rating companies gave AAA ratings to packages they didn't understand. So, the table was set for a crisis that could be manipulated.

For years the environmentalists, the government through regulations, and the labor unions had made our domestic car companies noncompetitive. They forced them through CAFE standards to make cars people didn't want. When people continued to buy SUVs and trucks they demonized those vehicles. The unions were unwielding during contract negotiations. Now the government and the unions own GM and Chrysler.

For the past eight years the Democrats and media, the Left, used the Big Lie to blast Bush and the Republicans from every corner. Simultaneously, they were grooming a little known black Communist to exploit white guilt and run for President.

We know the rest. The table was set and the trap was sprung. Now the beneficiaries are pretending they have a mandate rather than having sprung a finely crafted and successful coup de tete.

60 posted on 01/17/2010 11:50:52 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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