Posted on 01/14/2010 8:58:04 PM PST by T.L.Sink
Roman Catholicism may be the nominal faith in Haiti but voodoo is the true national religion. Closely related to this is the common practice of santeria, animal sacrifice. The most egregious African superstitions have merged with a superficial and distorted version of Christianity to produce a primordial blend of arrant nonsense that has created a cult of barbarism. Haiti is not the most impoverished and backward nation in the Western hemisphere simply by happenstance. It remains, as it always has, beyond the pale of civilization. And all the romanticizing of the Haitian people by the MSM won't change that reality.
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I think you’re right about the ol’ Bam. He hasn’t a clue. I also thinks he jumps at any chance he can to weaken the military and spread it thin. I HOPE and trust that the leadership of the various branches of the military will be able to foil him every time.
agreed,& think about it-over the past 2/3 mos he’s deployed how many troops overseas?
I can hear it now...’sir, there’s no one left to expedite...because imho the’bam thinks he can run this country singlehandly and ignore the advice of the frikkin’ military supervisors who probably are running this country right now and have been since this fool came into office.
On October 17, 1989, at 5:04:15 p.m. (P.d.t.), a magnitude 6.9 (moment magnitude; surface-wave magnitude, 7.1) earthquake severely shook the San Francisco and Monterey Bay regions. The epicenter was located at 37.04° N. latitude, 121.88° W. longitude near Loma Prieta peak in the Santa Cruz Mountains, approximately 14 km (9 mi) northeast of Santa Cruz and 96 km (60 mi) south-southeast of San Francisco.(From USGS).
Yep, I remember that quake. I was on the coast about 250 miles south of it and still felt it and could somehow tell that it was the tail-end of a big quake far away, and at the time wondered, “Hmmmm ... I wonder which city just got whacked, LA or SF?” I was also IN the Northridge quake ... I forget what the Richter scale reading was for that one. THAT one scared the bejeezus out of me. Actually, I forget what the Richter reading was/is for pretty much all of them ...!
A 7.0 earthquake did hit the San Francisco Bay Area in 1989. I was in downtown S.F. at the time. Once the shaking stopped I went over to North Beach to meet my friends at the bar where we had planned to watch the Giants in the World Series. We sat around drinking by candlelight until the cops came and told everyone to go home. We all went home and had the next day off from work. The following day we all went back to work. Some people died and that was tragic. Some buildings and other structures were damaged or destroyed. Whatever. We were pretty much all back at it within 48-72 hours.
Learn to tell the difference between a discussion and observations of a society and culture, versus the value of that society’s people. Culture does not always reflect nor does it live up to the value of a society’s seven year olds.
You are brain dead if you do not care for the people of Haiti (the seven year old crushed in a building or not crushed in a building) in their perpetual poverty, violence, disasters and suffering enough to ask why this is the case? Christian missionaries have been working to help lift up Haiti more than anyone on earth so your judgement and rejection of their observations is rather reactionary and barbaric.
To some, being brain dead in the confines of political correctness is safer because it will not risk the wrath of the unthinking herd. You will not discover any truth that will make you scared to see it or worse, say it and be the receipient of the “ten minutes of hate” dished out to Rush and Robertson who both said something true, but was distorted for hate because it was politically incorrect to say. Many just graze with the P.C. herd and know nothings and condemn those who actually know something.
“And now Obama has pledged not only relief for Haitians who are suffering from the earthquake catastrophe, which is only humanitarian and commendable - but $100 million! That preposterous some will be on top an already national deficit and debt that spans the next two generations.”
WE should be so lucky.
Obama is already an advocate of greater Haitian immigration, this is all the excuse they need.
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/07/29/obama-wants-more-haitians-in-america/
(2008)He also said there should be greater equity across the board for immigrants as well, pointing out that its much harder for Haitians to immigrate, despite similar circumstances in need as other groups that have been admitted legally.
Fox News today:
U.S. Preparing for Potential New Wave of Haitians Fleeing North
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/14/preparing-potential-new-wave-haitians-fleeing-north/
Last night CBS stated that there are 850,000 Haitians living in the USA now. Im sure every one of them would like to bring in all their relatives. Every time there is a storm in that area, we take in temporary refugees, they never leave.
Oct. 2008
Two weeks ago, the Bush administration announced it would extend temporary protected status to an estimated 300,000 Honduran, Nicaraguan and Salvadoran nationals who have been allowed to stay for years after natural disasters struck their countries.
It was granted to Hondurans and Nicaraguans after Hurricane Mitch hit in 1998 and to Salvadorans after a series of earthquakes in 2001.
While immigrant advocates argue its unfair to deny Haiti the same benefit afforded those countries, opponents say the fact that the immigrants from those other places are still in the US is proof the system doesnt work.
If Bush had ended the TPS for the Central American countries, then we would be in favour of TPS for Haitians, said Roy Beck, president of NumbersUSA, which advocates reduced immigration. The reason we dont is that theres no T in TPS.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/13/usa-haiti
Oh, maaa-aaa-aaan! Yikes! I'd love it (and I bet other FReepers would too) if you'd share some details. I can't even imagine what it would be like in downtown SF during a 7.0. Did any sights or sounds happen that surprised you, or was it just a nasty jolt and that was that? I'm GLAD you weren't on the bridge that collapsed. And if I had been on the Golden Gate at the time, I have had to change my underwear immediately! ;^)
Two things stand out. First, it lasted a looooong time! Maybe 40 seconds, really, but it seemed like an eternity. Second, it was LOUD! Real loud! And the loudest, nastiest sounds were coming from within the structure of the building I was in, like the whole thing was being twisted and ripped apart. Once the shaking stopped we went down the emergency staircase (six floors) and out onto the street. There was no traffic. It was so quiet and peaceful, and looking around there was no major damage visible at that location. I remember wondering "Did that really just happen?"
Very good post with good information. We here in South Florida, where there is a substantial Haitian ghetto, are acutely aware that these people overwhelmingly exist in a state of semi-barbarism and arrant superstition. Time and space prevent me from elaborating on the multitude of social problems they’ve created for us; suffice it to say they make the Mexican illegals look like brain surgeons and rocket scientists!
I don’t know if you guys caught Rush today but he mentioned several of the things in the post, including voodoo. He of course, like all of us, lamented the human suffering and death. But he pointed out that there was NO infrastructure to destroy because none existed before the quake. He also castigated Obama for his typical desire to throw 100 million at a problem without really understanding its nature and history - and for his propensity to use our military as a “meals on wheels.”
Yipes. And I'm an old hand at earthquakes -- been through a bunch, including Northridge (the first earthquake to scare the bejeebers out of me), but never downtown in a 7.0 in a city like SF! Thanks for desecribing what it was like.
The word for this is syncretism. In order to understand vodou or voodoo, you've got to understand that many if not most practitioners or believers, state that one must be Catholic first. It's not possible to separate the two.
The pantheon of old African gods has been equated with the Saints in the Catholic Church under vodou. Their god is not our God. Their god is distant, remote and inaccessible. Their old African gods-cum-saints are those to whom they entreat and offer sacrifices.
Syncretism has been officially condemned, but the practice is widespread, and not just in Haiti, but the entirety of the Caribbean and most of Latin America. There are many forms. Vodou, Candoble, Santeria. They all are a merging of occult with Catholicism.
Condemn it, forbid it, finally and literally, not just in words, once and for all. Cast it out, period.
The Catholic Church appears to have had several such stark choices to make in recent years. If an Epistle to the Churches were to be written today, what would be written about turning a blind eye to occult within the Church itself?
Words from the hierarchy are not enough.
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