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Scientist: Deer Bigger Threat than Global Warming
Federal Review ^ | 01-11-10

Posted on 01/11/2010 10:49:08 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

SYRACUSE, NY--The Chair of the Department of Environmental and Forest Biology at SUNY Syracuse says deer overpopulation is a greater threat to biodiversity in New York state than global warming.

Donald Leopold explained that "climate change isn't eliminating species, only moving their ranges."

Deer overpopulation, on the other hand, does eliminate other species, he noted.

"No other real or perceived threat is so pervasive throughout the entire state, nor eliminates the majority, if not all, of the understory of natural communities, greatly reducing the diversity of our natural communities and the function of these communities," Leopold explained.

"Ignoring what deer are doing... is worse than throwing litter on the highways, driving gas guzzlers, not recycling, and many other actions."

Leopold, who also serves as a Distinguished Teaching Professor in the program, researches "drivers of diversity and causes of varity in terrestrial and wetland ecosystems." According to his website he has published over fifty-five peer-reviewed papers, six books, six book chapters, six invited book reviews, three proceedings, and many miscellaneous publications, all generally about topics in forest and wetland ecology, and native plants.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bambi; deer; donald; environment; global; hunting; leopold; mandeerpig; pests; warming; wildlife
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Run away, it's a ManDeerPig!!!
61 posted on 01/11/2010 1:52:28 PM PST by rfp1234
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Scientist: Deer in the headlights Bigger Threat than Global Warming.

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62 posted on 01/11/2010 1:54:45 PM PST by rfp1234
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Deer overpopulation, on the other hand, does eliminate other species, he noted

Species have been coming and going for millions of years (poor dinosaurs, where was the Endangered Species Act when they needed it?)

Only leftoids with an overblown sense of their own importance think it's incumbent upon them to stop this natural process.

63 posted on 01/11/2010 2:08:14 PM PST by freespirited (People talk about "too big to fail." Our government is too big to succeed. --Chris Chocola)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

BTTT


64 posted on 01/11/2010 3:28:15 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: bgill

You are quite the humanist!


65 posted on 01/11/2010 4:49:59 PM PST by smaug6 (We can't afford to be innocent!! Stand up and face the enemy.)
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To: bgill

You are quite the humanist!


66 posted on 01/11/2010 4:50:08 PM PST by smaug6 (We can't afford to be innocent!! Stand up and face the enemy.)
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To: redpoll

People are very seperated from reality. We run a club on our land and we are the in Vir. Deer management program. You must actively take does in large numbers to control population. Most hunters are looking for that buck. I took 2 does and buck this year. Our quota was 38 does. We got 36. Almost no bucks taken this year as we raised the limit to 5 points on side or 16” spread. I did get 160 lbs for the freezer.


67 posted on 01/11/2010 4:54:46 PM PST by smaug6 (We can't afford to be innocent!! Stand up and face the enemy.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Good, maybe now they’ll let me hunt with selective fire fully automatic weapons.


68 posted on 01/11/2010 5:57:23 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: bgill
This is an ignorant statement. It is obvious you don't live anywhere near any growing deer populations. If you did, and had any sense, you would immediately discern that human development creates and enhances deer habitat. We do not move into their domain. They move into ours because we make it attractive to them.

In language made simple for you, parklands near urban areas, and suburban landscaping, are a deer candy store unlike any paradise they ever encounter in the wild.

Plus, we have done them the favor of removing natural predators like wolves and coyotes. Sorry Junior, human development is the greatest gift God ever gave the deer population.

69 posted on 01/11/2010 6:00:09 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Vinnie

Hubby just said they’re supposed to be opening a bow season at Hatteras soon. Talk about destructive! They’ll decimate the island in no time, and then the whackos will all be crying because the poor bambis are all starving to death. Shaking head.

The last few years—I work at a garden center—we’ve had people tell us the deer were eating their gardens down to the ground. Green tomatoes are their new fave. Don’t even get me started on the coyotes! They think cantaloupes are Snicker’s bars!

Hatteras is so beautiful, isn’t it? Love it.


70 posted on 01/11/2010 6:27:56 PM PST by gardengirl
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To: bert

Over the Hedge, anyone?! LOL


71 posted on 01/11/2010 6:29:49 PM PST by gardengirl
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To: jrberger

ping


72 posted on 01/11/2010 6:40:00 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: bgill
He means, since nobody is hunting them and humans have eliminated all their predators and natural competitors, deer populations are exploding, which means everything they eat is being consumed at unprecedented rates. They are destroying the undergrowth of forests across the eastern half of the US, leaving only the hardiest and most common species, while every marginal or niche variety is destroyed. The result is a reduction in the variety of life forms in the whole forest ecosystem. That is the claim - whether it is accurate is more than I know.

The underlyng point is that greenies who think leaving Bambi alone to frolick is "natural" and automatically results in a harmonious balance and all things light and true, is poppycock. Humans got rid of wolves, and as long as humans hunted deer in place of said wolves, no problem. When neither is around hunting them, is sucks to be a fern.

lol...

73 posted on 01/11/2010 6:44:19 PM PST by JasonC
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To: PA Engineer; TEXOKIE
In Western Pennsylvania it is pretty much open season on wild pigs. They are viewed as a very destructive invasive that is competing for the same food as the wild turkey.

In Northern CA, on the coast, they have been a problem for many, many years. In some areas they have crossed with the Russian Boar also. This has been going on for as long as I can remember and I am 67. The limit here, except in Monterey county, is one per day. They are a nuisance and hard to hunt.

74 posted on 01/11/2010 7:22:11 PM PST by calex59
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To: bgill

Look up what a browse line is. Deer decimated High Point State Park in New Jersey, possibly causing a few extinctions. These were insects and local plants, but they’re still gone.


75 posted on 01/11/2010 7:24:48 PM PST by sig226 (Bring back Jimmy Carter!)
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To: kidd

I can sit on my sons deck and we watch herds go thru his yard! He lives in the subs of Pittsburgh. Very dangerous as there are many hills and very winding roads. Cars get hit often.


76 posted on 01/11/2010 7:27:48 PM PST by caww
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To: bgill

“Uh, ok, so what exactly are the deer supposed to be doing?”

The smoke and drink beer out in the parking lot and don’t throw the cans or butts away. It’s awful.


77 posted on 01/11/2010 7:47:15 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: kidd
Seems to me that there’s a solution here, somewhere.

I'm sure our beloved Poke-us, er, Postus, er whatever Osamabamadingdong is pretending to be today will formulate a solution soon. It will, however, require vast sums of your and my tax monies to implement....

78 posted on 01/11/2010 8:27:52 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: JasonC
Humans got rid of wolves, and as long as humans hunted deer in place of said wolves, no problem. When neither is around hunting them, is sucks to be a fern.

Actually it's *great* to be a fern under these conditions. Or a barberry. It's everything else that gets chomped into oblivion. I don't know why, but it's well known in Northeastern deer country that deer will eat everything *except* ferns and barberries. I'd heard this before I bought some wooded property in Pennsylvania about 8 years ago. Strolling through the property drove home the point.

79 posted on 01/12/2010 1:50:42 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: mdmathis6

Yes! it is a root vegetable and is used as a thickener in oriental dishes as we would use corn starch. But in the south it has taken over! Some sectors in ATlanta are rife with it!


80 posted on 01/12/2010 9:08:14 PM PST by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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