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Germany's Role in the Balkans
Serbianna ^ | 10 January 2010 | Stella L. Jatras

Posted on 01/10/2010 7:00:04 AM PST by Doctor13

Serbia continues to get the bulk of the blame from many in academic and media circles for today’s catastrophe in the Balkans. An example is Professor Staric in his recently published book entitled Confronting The Yugoslav Controversies. While attempting to appear even-handed, Prof. Staric clearly shows his anti-Serb bias with statements such as, “After Slovenia and Croatia, which were the most developed republics of the former Yugoslavia, had declared their independence on June 25, 1991, the Serbs did not like to lose their ‘cash cows’,” and “The Serbs (mainly) and Croats have clearly shown that they are unable to live in a multinational State, where each would have equal, and not more, rights than the other constitutive nations, just as the citizens of four nationalities have in Switzerland.”

I would remind the good Professor that prior to our sticking our nose into the business of a sovereign nation, Yugoslavia was a multi-ethnic, multi-cultural and a multi-religion state. Even during the fighting in the 1990s, tens of thousands of Muslims fled to safety in Belgrade. Today, Serbians have no rights in Croatia.

Although it is important to defend Serbs against unjust accusations, it is first necesary to go back to World War II in order to understand Germany’s role in the Balkans when in 1941, Hitler recognized Croatia as an Independent State for being his loyal ally. Over a million Serbs, Jews and Gypsies were exterminated in Croatia’s Ustashe (Nazi) death camps so brutally that even the German Gestapo was appalled. Fast forward. As part of the Maastricht Netherlands Treaty of 1991, Germany pressured European Community (EC) to recognize the independence of Croatia, Germany’s ally in World War II. “From a position where the EC members were 11-to-1 in favor of maintaining the unity of Yugoslavia, Germany succeeded at 4 a.m. in forcing approval for the recognition of Croatia and Slovenia as independent states (German and U.S. Involvement in the Balkans, Defense & Foreign Affairs Publications London, 1995). In 1993, Uno Mas Uno, in a report entitled, German Finger In The Yugoslav Crisis, wrote, “Those who believed that defeat in two world war had diminished Germany’s expansionist ambitions were certainly wrong. More than ever before, Germans need territories and they want to expand.” Germany knew that by recognizing Croatia, it would foment a civil war to its advantage. In two world wars, Serbia prevented Germany from gaining access to the Adriatic Sea. It was now payback time.

I hope that in his book, Prof. Staric does more than just, as he claims, “mention” Operation Storm where Croatian forces, according to Most Rev. Dr. Robert M. Bowman, Lt Col, USAF, in one of his reports, killed 14,000 Serbs in the region of Krajina. It is estimated that over 650,000 Serbs were driven out of Croatia, 250,000 of them ethnically cleansed from their ancestral homes.

From the 1998 Calgary Herald: “MPs listened in silence Monday as a colonel recounted the story of the Canadian army’s biggest firefight since Korea, the 1993 Battle of the Medak pocket, that left the [Princess Patricia Canadian Light Infantry] troops picking up 16 corpses of murdered civilians and nursing their own wounds.” The atrocities described by Canadian soldiers as perpetrated by Croatian forces against Serbian civilians are too horrific even to list here, only to say, “Days later the Croats turned over 50 bodies.” (The Ottawa Citizen, Oct. 7, 1996). A color photo which accompanied the article showed the leader of the Canadian peacekeepers, with the caption, “Lt. Col Jim Calvin, left, had to calm his outraged soldiers after they discovered the carnage.”

Charles Krauthammer described the events of Krajina in Newsweek (April 5, 1999) as “The largest ethnic cleansing of the entire Balkan wars. Investigators with the war-crimes tribunal in The Hague have concluded that this campaign was carried out with brutality, wanton murder and indiscriminate shelling of civilians …. Croatia’s savage ethnic cleansing so demoralized the Serbs that they soon agreed to sign the Dayton peace accord of 1995.”

The Washington Times of 5 September 1995, reported that Croatian soldiers were given heroin or cocaine twice daily in order to help them face up to the horrors of war in reference to the explulsion of Croatian from Krajina. A Croatian soldier, identified only as Davor, stated, “To attack villages, to cut throats and to kill in cold blood you need a strong anesthetic – a shot of heroin or cocaine was ideal.” This report was also substantiated in The Guardian, on 1 September 1995.

The Washington Times of 29 December 1995 also reported that “Croats will ‘kill people for the color of their skin’.” [US Colonel Fontenot, Commander of NATO forces in northeastern Bosnia].

This is the same Croatia about which columnist A. M. Rosenthal, in the New York Times of April 15, wrote: “In World War II, Hitler had no executioners more willing, no ally more passionate, than the fascists of Croatia. They are returning, 50 years later, from what should have been their eternal grave, the defeat of Nazi Germany. The Western Allies who dug that grave with the bodies of their servicemen have the power to stop them, but do not.” This is the same Croatia about which The Washington Times reported (”Pro-Nazi extremism lingers in Croatia, June 15, 1997): “A German tank rolls through a small village, and the peasants rush out, lining the road with their right arms raised in a Nazi salute as they chant “Heil Hitler.” Mobs chase minorities from their homes, kicking them and pelting them with eggs as they flee into the woods. Europe in the 1940s? No. Croatia in the 1990s.”

It is both ironic and tragic that much of the turmoil in the Balkans is the result of German expansionism and Croatian brutality, but the finger of guilt seems always to point at Serbia.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: balkans; croats; germany; serbia; vladisawussy
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1 posted on 01/10/2010 7:00:04 AM PST by Doctor13
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To: Doctor13

In more recent news...

Our “friends, the saudis”, are drumming up their newly filled recruitment centers, or mosques(if you tell the truth), to go on another offensive in this disputed area.

Tolerance of evil, is evil.


2 posted on 01/10/2010 7:24:21 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Doctor13

The author attacks someone as anti-Serbian, and then makes remarks that seem rather anti-Croatian. Hypocrisy?


3 posted on 01/10/2010 7:37:33 AM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; vooch; ...

4 posted on 01/10/2010 6:02:44 PM PST by Ravnagora
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To: Doctor13

Outstanding piece by Stella Jatras - thanks Doctor13 for posting this.

The Croatians literally got away with murder while the fingers of blame kept pointing to the Serbs. This point cannot be emphasized enough.

The Croatian Ustashe and their Bosnian Muslim “brothers in arms” NEVER would have had the means or the guts, either in WWII Nazi-occupied Yugoslavia or in 1990’s Yugoslavia, to have committed their crimes against humanity without Germany’s blessing.

Croatia and Muslim “Bosnia” then, can be viewed as a post WWI Austria-Hungary. Except Austria-Hungary actually contributed some good and positive things to the world.

*****


5 posted on 01/10/2010 6:10:47 PM PST by Ravnagora
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To: vladimir998
The author attacks someone as anti-Serbian, and then makes remarks that seem rather anti-Croatian. Hypocrisy?

Why does this (ostensibly) bother you?

6 posted on 01/10/2010 11:21:18 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Ravnagora
Did you know that after the 30 year war, the Germans had a saying, "God save us from the plague, hunger and Croats?"

The Croatian soldiers were also known for their natty neckwear, which was called hrrvat (which is Croatian for "Croat) or hravat, named after them: cravat.

7 posted on 01/11/2010 2:46:22 AM PST by Doctor13
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic

You wrote:

“Why does this (ostensibly) bother you?”

Hypocrisy in general does.


8 posted on 01/11/2010 4:48:38 AM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: Doctor13
Germany's role in the Balkans in general has been to take over from the destruction the Muslim Turks waged there and rape pillage and genocide Orthodox Christians....aided and abetted by Nazi Croatians and Muslims of all types: Albanians, Bosnians, Roma, etc. and more recently Muslims from all over the world imported there by NATO and Clinton to slaughter even more.

It is ironic - and disastrous - that even though the US issued a communique to its embassies regarding conditions need to be met to be part of any anti-terror coalition, the US continues its support countries that continue to produce terrorist jihadis: Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Albania.

I would add Germany and Croatia to that list.

NO change here folks. The past 800 years or so continues to fester and the consequences of WWII have not been resolved.

9 posted on 01/11/2010 6:20:39 AM PST by eleni121 (For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: vladimir998
"Hypocrisy in general does.

Funny, I don't recall you ever stepping in to defend against anti-Serbianism, Vlad. Or did I just miss it?

10 posted on 01/11/2010 12:50:06 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe; FormerLib

You wrote:

“Funny, I don’t recall you ever stepping in to defend against anti-Serbianism, Vlad. Or did I just miss it?”

You missed it. You’re not the first: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2278045/posts

Make sure you read all the say to the bottom. I’ll even ping FormerLib so he or she can relive his or her embarrassment at being proved wrong OVERWHELMINGLY.


11 posted on 01/11/2010 1:47:35 PM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: vladimir998

You’ve never done any such thing, chumley.


12 posted on 01/11/2010 4:53:31 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Bokababe
Maybe we should keep a running record of folks who drop in to make snarky anti-Serb comments in threads and see if there's a pattern, shall we?

What? Why, this is impossible! Only Serbs suffer in the Balkans, no one else!
Yes, I’m being sarcastic.
2 posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:15:48 PM by vladimir998

The author attacks someone as anti-Serbian, and then makes remarks that seem rather anti-Croatian.
3 posted on Sunday, January 10, 2010 10:37:33 AM by vladimir998

How many will we need to be able to confirm a pattern, I wonder?

Ping the lists, let's get everyone in on the act!

13 posted on 01/11/2010 5:10:40 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: vladimir998

“Funny, I don’t recall you ever stepping in to defend against anti-Serbianism, Vlad. Or did I just miss it?”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2278045/posts

No, not a single example of you stepping in to defend against anti-Serb posts there. EPIC FAIL, hey?


14 posted on 01/11/2010 5:12:24 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

You wrote:

“You’ve never done any such thing, chumley.”

You might be right: it takes a conscience for someone to feel embarrassment when exposed pushing lies.


15 posted on 01/11/2010 5:15:23 PM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: vladimir998
...someone to feel embarrassment when exposed pushing lies.

Yet here you are once again, jumping in with your anti-Serb comments and then growing comically indignant when called on it.

Oh, this is just so predictable.

16 posted on 01/11/2010 5:20:15 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

You wrote:

“No, not a single example of you stepping in to defend against anti-Serb posts there. EPIC FAIL, hey?”

You might want to get hooked on phonics. Then you will be able to read, “I condemn it. I always have. Why do you repeatedly lie about what I do, what I say, what I won’t say, etc.? You seem to have a serious problem telling the truth.”

Now, FormerLib, if you want to say that destroying Serbian Orthodox churches is not anti-Serbian, well, okay, but that sounds odd to me. Then again, I never thought you made much sense anyway.

Yet another EPIC FAIL for FormerLib.

Remember FormerLib, you’re now claiming that Kosovo Muslims destroying Serbian churches is NOT anti-Serbian. Way to go!

With a friend like you, what do Serbians need with enemies like the Kosovo Muslims?


17 posted on 01/11/2010 5:25:55 PM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: FormerLib

You wrote:

“Yet here you are once again, jumping in with your anti-Serb comments and then growing comically indignant when called on it.”

So now this comment is anti-Serbian, “The author attacks someone as anti-Serbian, and then makes remarks that seem rather anti-Croatian. Hypocrisy?”

So noting the author’s hypocrisy is anti-Serbian? BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You’re not a former liberal. YOU ARE A LIBERAL. I didn’t make a single anti-Serbian comment in the whole thread. Not one. why do you feel compelled to lie like that? Again, don’t you have a conscience at all?

“Oh, this is just so predictable.”

Yeah, it is: EPIC FAIL for the still liberal FormerLib.


18 posted on 01/11/2010 5:30:15 PM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: FormerLib

FormerLib,

Just for kicks, post the supposedly anti-Serbian comment I supposedly made in this thread in your next post.

Can you do that?

Or will you fail...again?


19 posted on 01/11/2010 5:31:48 PM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: FormerLib

You wrote:

“Maybe we should keep a running record of folks who drop in to make snarky anti-Serb comments in threads and see if there’s a pattern, shall we?”

The pattern would seem to be rampant parahoia on the part of people who assume anti-Serbianism lurks in every post.

“How many will we need to be able to confirm a pattern, I wonder?”

Quite a few. Will you find any at all?

“Ping the lists, let’s get everyone in on the act!”

That’s right! Get every one else involved! Show just how threatened you feel when I make an accurate accusation of hypocrisy. Beg for help so that someone will save the sagging reputation of the anti-anti-Serbianists. The fact that I made no anti-Serbian comment in this thread whatsoever is, of course, of no consequence whatsoever. Why let a little reality get in the way of a good bout of paranoia? It’s better than having a conscience and actually taking responsibility for your silly vendettas, right?


20 posted on 01/11/2010 5:37:36 PM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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