Posted on 01/09/2010 1:34:54 PM PST by Red Steel
There have been rumbles of unrest around the world regarding Obama’s nationality since the day he stated he would run for the presidency. Now, after more than a year as president of the USA, the rumbles have turned into a full on eruption.
The Barack Obama nationality scandal is refusing to burn itself out and seems to be gathering even more speed with Congressman Nathan Deal questioning the eligibility of Obama to hold the presidency. This is the first time in history that a serving president has been questioned about eligibility by a member of congress.
Over the last week the internet has been reporting this story with the blogosphere almost going into meltdown over the latest developments yet no mainstream media seem interested in the story that just won’t go away for Obama.
Congressman Deal asked the president to prove that he is legally entitled to hold the presidency electronically on December 1st 2009. This communication was confirmed received by Obama’s staff but has yet to be responded to.
Even though the president has already produced his short-form birth certificate in order to stop these questions, he has spent a large amount of taxpayers money (estimated to be more than two million dollars) ensuring that the long-form certificate is kept from the public – an action that has raised more than a few eyebrows along the way.
Throughout the campaign trail and longer, Obama made promises of the most transparent administration than any other so why the need to hide a simple birth certificate? Many claim that the whole situation is a complete waste of time and distracting but supporters of the question refuse to stop asking more and more questions.
It seems that the original question seems to have caused a stir not just in America but worldwide with thousands of people doing independent research in an attempt to get the facts out. The problem with independent research is that it is hard to verify where the alleged facts came from and when they are traced back its not unusual to find that it stemmed from opinion.
With several birth certificates doing the rounds, many proven as hoaxes, the ‘official’ birth certificate in the Obama nationality scandal seems to prove that the president was in fact a British Subject at birth. On the website dedicated to protecting Obama from smears, Fight The Smears, there is an electronic copy of the birth certificate showing that Obama was born a British Subject. This in itself has been the cause for much speculation on how, why and when nationality was transferred.
Obama’s nationality scandal doesn’t seem to be going anywhere at the moment and even the secret service seem to be taking an interest in anyone questioning Obama’s nationality with visits being made for security reasons. Reported last week at Mother Jones, more and more people who have raised issue are being visited by the secret service and being left feeling very intimidated.
No matter what side of the fence you sit on this scandal seems set to stay around for a long time to come.
How does it feel being accused of obama derangement syndrome by someone who is a proven fraud and liar at FR? ... ST is deceit personified, and has even been told to stay off of the birth issue threads, but here it is, protected as before!
In your own imagination... perhaps... LOL...
From the instant he was conceived, Obama could NEVER be a Natural Born Citizen, he was born British and American. He is an Usurper, and this entire Government is unconstitutional.
Obviously the state agency that keeps and maintains the original records and who also puts out any certified copies of a birth records that are requested... does not agree with you.
The State of Hawaii made an official statement that Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural born American citizen.
At the very least, if someone is looking at a statement by you -- and then -- looks at a statement from the State of Hawaii (who maintains those records and puts out the certified copies of birth certificates) -- which statement do you think the general public is going to think is more credible? :-)
That 1 in 3 of the general population does not believe Obama was born in the U.S. is really rather remarkable given the complete blackout on reporting by both the Marxist media and conservative media.
And....We do not know ( perhaps you do) the percentage of people like me who say that it is impossible to know about Obama’s eligibility given the evidence.
And 51% of Republicans do not believe that Obama was not born in the U.S. This is more than half of all Republicans. This too is remarkable given the complete lack of mainstream media reporting. These Republican ( plus those with doubts and questions) are NOT going to allow their representatives to ignore this issue.
Conservatives can certainly disagree about whether Obama’s eligibility is worth spending time, but...please don't use DOJ talking points to deliberately misinform, distort, or obfuscate.
She does not understand the concept of Garbage In you get Garbage Out or GIGO for short.
The problem with that -- as it pertains to the State of Hawaii and to that department -- is that they are the only ones who make up certified copies of a person's birth certificate (in that state).
So, if you're saying that the only agency who can actually prove where Obama is born -- has information that cannot be trusted -- then you're basically saying that there is no way you'll ever know (no matter what) where Obama was born -- because there is no other place to get a certified copy of the birth certificate... LOL...
You've got a real problem there, I would say... :-)
Do see any benefits in discussing facts and reality stuff with people who have completed psychic courses???
Are you trying to tell us that you're psychic? :-)
I saw the original long form birth certificate. His doctor was Dr. X. He was born in Hopital X, the witnesses were Nurses X and X, and his father's name was Barack Obama, Sr.
She didn't. Instead she referred to vague “vital records” which could be anything at all, even amended records.
She would have said NOTHING about his natural born status since she has no authority whatsoever to declare anyone natural born.
If it ever does come out that Obama is not a natural born citizen, I hope this woman is forever shamed in society for being a traitor.
Thorazine. Or one of those anti-hallucinagens.
Y'all sure seem to be experts on drugs... I wonder where you got the background and experience in such... :-)
I’m amazed at how experienced some of y’all are, with these drugs. I guess if someone has a question about drugs, they should come to you... :-)
Sdee posts 226 and 229 above. You’re a fraud.
Makes sense if he wants to make conservatives look like idiots.
You were saying ...
This is an open forum and he is saying, from his perspective, this isn’t going anywhere, for a variety of reasons. Is it going anywhere? Hell, I want to believe that if you kick enough rocks over there will eventually be something under it.
It's not just from "my perspective" it's not going anywhere -- it's not going anywhere in "real life"...
I mean by that, Obama was not stopped from having Electoral College votes cast for him, the Congress certified the Electoral College votes (no one objected), Vice President Cheney never objected (neither did President Bush and neither did our own candidate McCain), no court stopped Obama before taking office, the Supreme Court did not stop Obama from taking office, no court has since ruled against Obama, no court has asked for Obama's birth certificate, no court has ruled that Obama should not be in office right now (as some say they want to have such a ruling), no U.S. Marshal has gone over to the White House to arrest Obama (as some say they think should be done), no tanks have surrounded the White House demanding that Obama be removed (as some has said is needed to get rid of Obama)... and on and on it goes... (that's just a short list... I could make a longer one... LOL...).
Now, I don't call what I just wrote -- "from my perspective" -- but "in reality" -- it is going absolutely nowhere.
HOWEVER, the one thing that would go somewhere -- I don't find anyone else posting about (even 1/10 of 1 percent to all these other posts) -- which is enacting a state law that requires a candidate to show his birth certificate or else he cannot get on the ballot in that state.
This is not a matter of "perception" of it not going anywhere -- it's absolutely not going anywhere in the last 1-1/2 years. I see no sign of it changing -- and why should it change?
I mean, the State of Hawaii has made an official pronouncement that Obama was born in the State of Hawaii and is a natural born American citizen. From that statement (which is not a matter of "my perception"...) that closes the issue on where Obama was born.
The only one other matter to be resolved (if it ever is) -- is simply the matter of whether it makes a difference as to the citizenship of the parents. Only the Supreme Court will settle that issue -- and I've seen, thus far, how fast the Supreme Court is moving on any issue like this...
It's no mere "perception" on my part -- it's the "real world" that is not taking this seriously at all, and why should they from what the State of Hawaii has said?
BUT, having said all that, and that it's going nowhere, I still think it's a good idea for all candidates to have to show their birth certificate and a state law to that effect would be good. All of us should be working on that one, because I don't think a single one of those states got it through the legislature last year.
In addition, I also think it's a good idea to have the Supreme Court weigh in onthe issue of the relevance of the parents in relation to these qualifications listed in the Constitution. I don't think they will, but I would like to see it -- if for no other reason than to put it all to rest, once and for all (and that's good enough reason by itself).
Only because you don’t like what you hear... LOL...
See posts 226 and 229 above ...
Is that another statement from the State of Hawaii regarding where Obama was born? LOL...
I mean, the State of Hawaii already said he was born in Hawaii and that he’s a natural born American citizen, so what more could they add?
You speaking about realities and fantasies many times indicates drug use.
ST:
I was trying to come to your aid and say from your “viewpoint” or perspective, which is probably a fairly objective opinion.
At no time did I intend or allude to your “perception” which would be more subjective and given to a singular “guestimate” with a variety of non-facts to support a hypothetical.
As I said before, I agree with your assessment of the field.
This is my one little conspiracy in life and my dream would be for our suspicions to be confirmed or denied by facts.
Will they? Doubt it. The machine doesn’t want it to happen and from their viewpoint a global governance gets them closer to their dreams.
Skip the word perception, you are more prescient than that. LOL
Everyday citizens seeking truths regarding the political process can to some extent be termed “acting politically.”
But it’s entirely different from a politician doing things to maintain his voter base.
I didn’t create this distinction—it exists whether or not I explain it to you and whether or not you understand it.
This is a copy/paste from the usurper's fight the smear!!!
Can anyone here show me where it says he is a Natural Born Citizen (NBC)???
I see it says he is born as "NATIVE CITIZEN" NOT at all as a NBC!!!
However, we have some here acting as "thought-police" claiming that Fukino's press release was worded natural-born American Citizen, because he/she (TS) "thought" it would be best to add the word "AMERICAN" to make sure that we all would not challenge the NBC. If that was so, how come that fight the smear is NOT using the same wording???
So let's see how long this take......
My thoughts go with you in prayer as well. We lost my dear F-i-L last year, hard to swallow!
My post to you was a reference to this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2422146/posts?page=680#680
Be very careful, you are not on the same page as he at all!!!
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