Why not focus on Islamic extremists and those who have a record of sympathizing with them (liberals) and let the rest of go free.
Posted on 01/05/2010 8:30:13 PM PST by SoonerStorm09
OKLAHOMA CITY – Will Rogers World Airport will get full body scanners like the one at Tulsa International, though at least one area resident says the “naked machines” will be enough to keep her from flying.
Following the attempted Christmas Day bombing of Northwest flight 253, the federal Transportation Security Administration has ramped up plans to make sure airline travelers are thoroughly searched and even scanned in new machines.
Some travelers are not thrilled with the idea of having to go through the body scanners, or “naked machine,” as Norman resident and activist Kaye Beach calls them.
“The way I understand it, they have capability to record (the image), though they say they don’t. I’m sorry, but the ‘trust us’ route doesn’t work.”
“The airport route has gotten to be such a hassle and uncomfortable that I will pretty much not fly, unless there’s an emergency,” Beach said. “I will never go through a naked machine and my daughter will not go through a naked machine. It’s definitely altered my habits. I used to like to fly and liked going to airports. Not any more. I feel like a criminal going through there.”
Beach said that she is suspicious of people like former Department of Homeland Security head Michael Chertoff who advocate body scanners and have interests in a company, the Chertoff Group with a client that makes the machines, according to The Washington Post.
A report out of Britain’s Guardian newspaper notes that detail may break child pornography laws there.
(Excerpt) Read more at oklahoma.watchdog.org ...
Dumbasses need to be scanning for people.
I know that’s not politically correct, but consider that continuing this PC crap is gonna get another bunch of us killed.
Absolutely. Thank you. Yes.
How to Recognize and Fight a Terrorist on a Plane
Since I am a pilot, I have had people ask what can a passenger do onboard an airplane to help thwart a terrorist attack.... I can give you some information which might assist you in dealing with a suspicious passenger or situation.
The first thing to realize is that there are a few different scenarios which the terrorists could be using on your particular flight... Options include testing TSA and law enforcement personnel, testing passengers and crewmembers, observation, dry run/practice, and actual execution of an attack. Of course it is hard to differentiate which scenario is playing out until after your flight lands, but it might assist you in recognizing the threat and knowing how serious your reaction should be if you know all of the options. In most of these instances, their job is to also scare you. Terrorists create terror. If you stop flying, they win. So be pro-active. Maybe something you do will cause them to call off the attack.
As a passenger you must be observant and vigilant. Most often someone notices some unusual activity or behavior. It doesn’t have to be just a person either. Suspicious bags, luggage, packages, notes, pillows, and electronic devices have been found on planes. One of the biggest advantages you have is the ability to profile. TSA refuses to do the obvious thanks to political correctness. Everyone knows who is committing these attacks -- Muslim, Middle-Eastern men between 18 and 40. Maybe al Qaeda is trying to recruit others than don’t fit this profile but it sure fits the mold right now.
Some things to look for: groups or pairs of men, a passenger talking to themselves, speaking Arabic, watching crewmembers (this is different than looking), staring at the cockpit door, long stays or multiple trips to the lavatory, reading a book but not turning any pages, nervousness, being unusual by trying to fit in, taking pictures/videos, not making eye contact. When you are at the boarding area and on the plane if you notice a suspicious passenger, look for others. How many? If it is one or two then they could be planning on bombing the aircraft or just making observations of crew procedures. 6 or more? Then this cell’s objective would be hijacking the plane by brute force. Also remember that there are sleepers that try to blend in with the other passengers and could be very hard to notice. A website reports a well-dressed man in custody that was also a passenger on Delta Flight 253. After an incident, your entire plane might be delayed for security and they will treat everyone as suspects. Also expect the government and airline to try to cover up parts or all of an event.
A recent example of a possible test occurred on Nov 17 with an Airtran flight from Atlanta to Houston. Eleven Muslim men got on the plane and caused a big disturbance and ended with passengers assisting the flight attendants in the commotion. TSA was called, they took the men off, talked to them, and put them back on. The crewmembers walked off the plane refusing to fly it, and then passengers walked off as well. The terrorists tested the TSA and passengers but probably also threatened lawsuits to the government and Airtran. This could be setting up a later mission with hopes the TSA and airline would be afraid to take them off the plane. Just like the Delta flight, the final layer of security, the crewmembers and passengers, are the ones who might have prevented an attack, nothing the government did was successful.
The best time to do something is prior to boarding and before the aircraft pushes back from the gate while the door is still open. This is when you have some control in the situation and easier for the captain to get involved. Before you board you can talk to a TSA employee or gate agent and explain your concerns. The gate agents are usually very busy and might give you the brush off. Talk to other passengers. While on the plane you will have to find a flight attendant, which could prove difficult because at times the boarding process can be quite chaotic. If one flight attendant seems to ignore you then talk to the other one. Maybe ask to see the captain. Write a note. If you are really scared, grab your bags, say you are sick, and get off the plane. Some crewmembers can be just as ignorant about the serious nature of the threat as our government officials...
While seated look for able-bodied men, military personnel, or deadheading crew to assist you. Maybe you notice a suspicious passenger but do not feel it warrants a visit with TSA/Flight Attendant or it happens inflight . Volunteer yourself or change seats on your own to sit next to or right behind any suspicious passengers. A recent crew moved a soldier to sit next to a nervous Middle-Eastern passenger before pushback. Once while I was deadheading in coach during a flight, the captain told the flight attendant to move me next to a suspicious passenger.
Once airborne there are limited options. Talking to the flight attendants and moving seats is basically all you can do. A divert takes time and would be a major emergency...
If an actual attack occurs, then all bets are off. Take Action! DO NOT wait for crewmember instruction! This is a life or death situation. The terrorists will be hoping for the element of surprise. You will probably die anyways if the terrorists are successful so you might as well die giving them a fight. If it is a hijacking, block the aisles and do not let them get to the cockpit. For a bombing, jump on the passenger and separate him from the ignition source. For a suspicious package, box, etc. there is a place on the plane to move it to, but do not move it until necessary and with guidance from the crew.
The airlines are doing their best just to stay in business with the recession, bad weather, tough competition, and low fares. The employees are very frustrated with pay cuts, long hours, full planes, grumpy customers and poor morale. The commercial aviation system wasn’t designed to fight terrorists. And don’t necessarily blame the TSA and law enforcement agencies. They have some really hard working personnel trying to protect us. It is the policies implemented by people working in the U.S. government that is the problem...
Why not focus on Islamic extremists and those who have a record of sympathizing with them (liberals) and let the rest of go free.
Have they shipped the cases of Depends to be issued as we get on the airplanes? That way we can urinate and defecate in our Depends during the hour we’re not allowed to use the lavatories. Anyone ask about the radiation they’re dosing you up with when shoving you through their machines?
Somehow I don’t quite trust or believe them.
Look for hidden weapons.
First of all these scans are designed to detect metal - the eunuch bomber’s ‘package’ was not metallic. So, as usual they react with ineffective, privacy invading non-sense.
Nothing short of following the Israeli model will keep us safe. Pols do not have the nads to profile. They’d better stop worrying about offending muzzies that no one wants in this country anyway and start worrying about the American people.
We are now very close to considering ‘our’ leaders our enemies.
Ha Ha - Looks like a cute little armed gerbil :-)
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
children too watch the perverts come out to get a job to peek..dog sniffing bombs at every gate will do a lot since the terrorist will be stuffing bombs up the wazoo and profiling does work if the idiots will just do the job and not worry about rights. ask the 9/11 victims about their rights!
Notice the lack of outrage?
The conditioning is working.
Ten years ago they wouldn’t have considered this.
For those who think bad things can’t happen here.
Oh, and keep in mind that the process of enslavement gets faster as it goes.
Imagine what it will be like in twenty years.
But don’t worry, another election cycle will save us. NOT!
It was great. I felt very safe flying out of Tulsa.
No recording is made. The person seeing the back scatter image does not see a normal image of the person. The guy looking at you from the machine image could not pick you out in line up. Your disinformation is more a representation of your warped imagination than any reality.
More BS. The radiation you get from this machine is less than you get from your cell phone.
Sorry, but there are conflicting reports about cell phone radiation as well. It amazes me that extensive testing is done on just about everything in this country that is sold to the public, but where is the testing on this? Present it to the public. True scientific tests not Al Gore fantasies.
After answering your post to me I saw this one as well... do you have a vested interest in selling this technology?
Nope. I am retired. I know no one who works in that arena. I have not investments in the arena. I do, however, value the lives of my family and myself. I am not willing to sacrifice them to the alter of political correctness.
My feelings is hurt.
Uh-huh. That makes me feel real confident. Do I have to wait until they've swallowed their french-fries?
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