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Another Obama-CIA rift as POTUS deflects blame from self, DNI and appointees
Flopping Aces ^ | 01-02-10 | Mataharley

Posted on 01/02/2010 2:07:26 PM PST by Starman417

While the painstaking process of unearthing the "systematic failures" of intelligence on the "underwear bomber" continues, Obama again performs on script. Just as he's done with virtually every past crises - and always while armed with only the bare essentials of information - the now infamous POTUS finger of blame moves away from anyone remotely connected with Obama, his decisions or performance of his appointees, and falls once again on his favorite scapegoat, the CIA.

And the CIA spy chiefs are none to happy about the accusations. It seemed especially harsh when, in an apparent moment of political expedience, Obama was hailing the seven CIA agents slain by a suicide bomber at a US base in the eastern province of Khost 24 hours later.

One day the President is pointing the finger and blaming the intelligence services, saying there is a systemic failure,’ said one agency official. ‘Now we are heroes. The fact is that we are doing everything humanly possible to stay on top of the security situation. The deaths of our operatives shows just how involved we are on the ground.’

But CIA bosses claim they were unfairly blamed at a time the covert government agency has been stretched further than ever before in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

They point to the murder of seven operatives at a remote mountain base in Afghanistan’s Khost Province as an example of how agents are putting their lives on the line at the vanguard of America’s far-flung wars.

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Some CIA officials are angry at being criticised by the White House after Abdulmutallab, 23, was allowed to slip through the security net and board a US-bound flight in Amsterdam despite evidence he was a terror threat.

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bayofpigs2; bho44; bhoanticia; bhoantiusa; bhocia; bomber; cia; ciaofficers; enemywithin; fauxpresident; fobchapman; munchhausenbyproxy; nationalsecurityfail; nobc; obama; sociopathicpres
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To: BARLF
Nevertheless, they put guy's name into terrorists database. What else Obama wants? Manning airport gates when boarding starts??
It's Obama’s TSA and Homeland Security who seems to keep ignoring terrorists in favor of watching like hawks such dangerous types like the the US veterans.
41 posted on 01/02/2010 4:01:24 PM PST by alecqss
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To: BARLF
Nevertheless, they put guy's name into terrorists database. What else Obama wants? Manning airport gates when boarding starts??
It's Obama’s TSA and Homeland Security who seems to keep ignoring terrorists in favor of watching like hawks such dangerous types like the the US veterans.
42 posted on 01/02/2010 4:01:28 PM PST by alecqss
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To: onyx

I have read numerous vacay reports and recall some saying he’d be back in DC on Tuesday, which I found odd considering his daughters’ school vacation schedule. Now Kornblut emphasizes his return trip starting tomorrow is “scheduled.” It doesn’t add up.

He could have cut the trip a day or so short, and quickly padded it with a couple family-friendly photo-ops of dolphins and shave-ice.


43 posted on 01/02/2010 4:04:49 PM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

I am certain his vacation was supposed to be for 10 days and he got a late start because he waited for the senate vote. He left on the 24 of December, which would put him back in DC on Tuesday.


44 posted on 01/02/2010 4:10:53 PM PST by onyx
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To: BARLF

If you get a chance, check the comments over at Flopping Aces.

Mata is really unhappy with the poster that said pretty much what you said.


45 posted on 01/02/2010 4:11:05 PM PST by stylin_geek (Greed and envy is used by our political class to exploit the rich and poor.)
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To: BARLF
Please, Leon Panetta does not represent the CIA’s finest. Nor those lamebrains Joe and Valerie Plame Wilson who seem to have disappeared

General Hayden is a great patriot, as are the men and women who serve 24/7 and have to keep secret what they help to prevent- and then get slammed when something goes wrong.

My bet is this whole thing rests on obama’s laissez faire about threat data, inept management at his National Terrorist Center (given even the word Terrorist is non-PC) and some stupid gate agent at Northwest who was racially guilted into passing this terrorist onto the plane as a po’ Sudanese orphan

46 posted on 01/02/2010 4:22:29 PM PST by silverleaf (More folks were invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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To: wintertime

here here!!!!!

Or let the KGB do it.


47 posted on 01/02/2010 4:23:21 PM PST by silverleaf (More folks were invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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To: Melchior

I hope there are a few left that could effect some change.


48 posted on 01/02/2010 4:23:55 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: alecqss
The Agency did their country harm by working against the Bush Adm. especially after 911. There was even a gang of retired CIA agents that entered into the fray against the president. For those actions I am left with little respect for the Agency.

Now whatshisnane is going to toss the CIA under his big ole bus *maybe* What goes round comes round again.

I've no doubt there are patriots at CIA and those killed in Afghanistan the other day I mourn.

I have nothing but disdain for this so called CiC, but I have memory of the past actions of CIA against my country and their leaks that hindered President Bush trying to keep our country safe after 911, Their actions were despicable.

49 posted on 01/02/2010 4:27:03 PM PST by BARLF
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To: abclily

a-ha

THAT is the hidden bomb, imho

He probably NEVER DID. Making every legal document he has signed since age 18 - a lie

Adopted kids like Barry get a new birth certificate and a new name- a new LEGAL name. H’es have to take legal action ot change it. Minor stuff - uness you blow it off and live a lie all the way to law school, the Illinois State Bar, the US Senate, and the WH


50 posted on 01/02/2010 4:27:12 PM PST by silverleaf (More folks were invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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To: stylin_geek

Ok, Thanks


51 posted on 01/02/2010 4:28:34 PM PST by BARLF
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To: stylin_geek
LOL

I am not Blake! But, looks as if we are of the same mindset.

We are supposed to forget the CIA past when they worked against Bush and praise them when whatshisname throws them under the bus.

I'd be thrilled if the CIA would go after Peelosi and whatshisname but they won't.

Peelosi called CIA liars and hardly a whimper from them.

I'm certainly not defending the POS in the WH.

52 posted on 01/02/2010 4:48:20 PM PST by BARLF
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To: charlie72
Not true. He is not that powerful.
53 posted on 01/02/2010 5:23:47 PM PST by angcat (GOD SAVE US!)
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To: Red Steel
Produce the Kenyan and Hawaiian birth certificates CIA.

Who knows, he keeps poking at them with a stick, there may be a "leak" showing up at an inopportune time.

54 posted on 01/02/2010 5:27:18 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Starman417

The man is completely inept, and I fear he’s going to get a lot of people killed before his time in office is done.


55 posted on 01/02/2010 7:40:11 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

I agree with you SuziQ, Today I saw a clip he must have done before leaving Hawaii - and I’m telling you, I thought he looked terrified. I think he’s finally “getting it”. He always wants to be “the man”, well now he owns it and it’s starting to sink in (I think) that he could go down in history as the president responsible for killing millions of Americans through focusing on his stupid ideology. I think he has caught so much hell on this one, he may say screw health care for awhile, or is that too much wishful thinking?


56 posted on 01/02/2010 7:54:24 PM PST by Nodems2000 (Beheadngs are better says atlanta holy man)
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To: Nodems2000
I think he has caught so much hell on this one, he may say screw health care for awhile, or is that too much wishful thinking?

Sadly, I think that is wishful thinking. He may think he needs to push health care even harder, since he believes that would be a big victory for him. I think he's WAY wrong on that, but let him keep it up.;o)

57 posted on 01/02/2010 8:17:22 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: angcat

It does seem a little far-fetched to normal people that Obama would have CIA agents slaughtered for someone(??) killing Afghan children, but then again I would not put anything past usurper Obama if he thought it would make him look sympathetic to Muslims. The airplane in Hawaii could very well have been a warning. I hope the CIA exposes him and Pelosi very soon.


58 posted on 01/02/2010 8:43:51 PM PST by charlie72
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To: Candor7

the comment was made that Zero’s favorite shave ice colors were green and red/half and half


59 posted on 01/03/2010 12:08:47 AM PST by blueplum
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To: abclily

No, the current thinking is that he had the following progression of legal names:

1) 1961: Barack Hussein Obama [Jr or II]

2) circa 1965/1966: Barry Soetoro

3) circa 1970: Barry Dunham

4) circa early 1980’s: Barack Hussein Obama II

There is a summary of the current working theory here:

Obama Citizenship Controversy - Did Obama Travel to Pakistan on an Indonesian Passport? A Summary.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2059717/posts

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2061512/posts


Thanks to Judah Benjamin’s work, the mystery of Obama’s COLB is quickly being solved — at least in my mind. Here is my current theory of events:

1. Obama was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, with the legal name Barack Hussein Obama II, and Barack H. Obama Sr. was identified as his legal father. [NOTE: an alternative theory, that Obama was born in Canada, is still being researched.]

2. Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetoro in Hawaii sometime around 1965-1966.

3. As part of the adoption procedure, pursuant to Hawaiian law, Obama’s original Birth Certificate (BC) was SEALED, and a new Birth Certificate was issued with his new name, Barry Soetoro, and the name of his new father, Lolo Soetoro.

4. Mother and son joined Soetoro in Indonesia, where Barry Soetoro was registered in school as Lolo’s son, a Muslim, and a citizen of Indonesia.

5. After approximately 4 years, Barry Soetoro returned to Hawaii as a U.S. citizen to live with his grandparents, the Dunhams, and attend private school.

6. At some point before his 18th birthday, he most likely changed his legal name back to Barack Hussein Obama, but his Birth Certificate would not have been modified again unless there was another adoption (by the Dunhams, for example).

So….IF the above-stated hypotheses are correct, Obama’s current Birth Certificate in Hawaii would identify him as Barry Soetoro and his father would be Lolo Soetoro (unless, as stated, there was another adoption).

Upon request by the registrant (Sen. Obama), the State of Hawaii would issue a COLB in the name of Soetoro for child and father. Is this why the Senator has avoided showing his Birth Certificate? And is this why — if Polarik and Techdude are correct — the COLB published by Obama has been altered?

http://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/showthread.php?t=602251


60 posted on 01/03/2010 5:51:06 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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